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True. Wait..., what? No!!!
Debate Score:20
Arguments:30
Total Votes:20
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Atheists and Christians have 2999 things in common.

There are about 3000 Gods.
Christians do NOT believe in 2999 of them.
Atheists do NOT believe in 2999 of them plus one.

True.

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Wait..., what? No!!!

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All theists have a little atheists in them ;)

Side: True.
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There are millions of Gods. The things you are calling God are not God who created all things. You are holding up 3000 straw men, created in your own imagination, and saying they are not God who created all things. Of course they are not God. This stuff is so stupid and atheists act so smug with their consciously created straw men which they know are not God.

If you say God is one of the things which you call gods, then the thing you are calling God is not God who created all things. You are being dishonest if you say God is a created thing, then arguing a created thing cannot be the Creator of all Things.

It's really quite childish.

Side: True.
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There are millions of Gods.

Are you saying that atheists and Christians have more than 2999 things in common ;)

Side: True.
daver(1771) Disputed
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Your expressing an opinion (your opinion) about your god.

As Joe said, the other gods also have people who believe in them.

Then there's those pesky atheists who believe in no god.

Point is saint, it's all opinions and no one has any proof. Just faith or logic.

And that's the truth.

Side: Wait..., what? No!!!
NowASaint(1380) Clarified
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No, I'm talking about God when I talk about God. People who talk about things which are not God are not talking about God the creator of all things. You might notice they avoid acknowledging the recognized definition of God as being the Creator of all things.

Saying many gods are not God is not an argument against God, it's a childish game.

There is plenty of proof that God is God who created all things. The fact that you will not accept proof is not proof that there is no proof. You have chosen to set up a brick wall in your mind behind which you think God cannot see you because He is not there...but you're only fooling yourself.

True faith is based on facts, true logic is true without error. The fact is that there is no explanation for life or reality outside God creating it. It's very simple, but people who don't want God telling them what they should or should not do prefer a blind faith based on nothing in which they believe death exonerates them.

The truth is that we are morally corrupt and unworthy of being in God's presence. That is why you cannot see God now, your sin separates you from Him. The truth is that you are not living, but are dying and as you had no choice in coming into existence you have no choice but to exist and you are going to be somewhere. Dying people need to be saved. The truth you hope in is that death gets you out of reality.....you're hoping in nothing and have faith in nothing and it's giving you nothing but death.

It does not matter if you believe God is God or not, you cannot change reality, you cannot make God void by saying He is not there...all you can do is seal your fate in sin separated from God, and that's not wise as pride goes before a fall and you have one foot in the grave and the other on thin ice melting over the fire of Hell. Only God the Savior Jesus Christ who conquered death can save you and pull you up out of it.

I'm not going to waste a lot of time with you, you seem satisfied with yourself and your dying.

Side: True.
NowASaint(1380) Disputed
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There is only one God who you want to deny is God. He is God who says sinners need to be saved from Hell. All of the things you call "gods" are irrelevant. Who cares if they are real or not? It is only God who you want to be gone but you cannot admit He is the One you want to be free of because that would be acknowledging Him and you can't be an atheist if you acknowledge God is the One who you want to be non-existent. Arguing against Thor, Zeus, filleting spaghetti monster......those are red herrings, consciously created straw men you argue against saying they cannot be God That is not an argument against God. There is no valid argument against God.

Side: True.
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"If you're having god problems I feel bad for you son

I got 2999 problems but a god ain't one"

From Jay-Z, a modern version of Psalms.

Side: True.
1 point

Regardless of the arguable number of "gods", an Atheist believes in one god less than a Christian.

Side: True.

I'd like to see where you are getting the numbers from.

There are a lot of possible gods.

Side: Wait..., what? No!!!
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Yes indeed Jatin , aren't there something like 300 million Hindu gods ?

Side: Wait..., what? No!!!
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Those are actually the demigods.

There are a few gods, but they are the manifestation of a single God - no Hindu sect prays to multiple entities, and the closest it can get to that is in rituals.

Side: Wait..., what? No!!!