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Old people are smarter than young people.

http://qz.com/95103/people-joining-the-us-workforce-today-are-less-educated-than-those-leaving-it/

People joining the US workforce today are less educated than those leaving it

As baby boomers (those born in the generation after World War II) continue to leave the workforce, companies are having trouble finding skilled workers to replace them.

 

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"While robots and iPads may be invading the classroom, there might be something about education we can learn by looking back—about 40 years."

Young people are still wet behind the ears ;)

Side: True.
2 points

Youngsters are good with tech but what scares me is how little they know about general things, I met a 20 year old who did not understand how Hong Kong could have been part of Great Britain as its on the other side of the world!! Unfortunately she isn't alone in this kind of lack of knowledge which to me is a failure of the schools, my daughters business studies homework recently was to watch the Apprentice!!

I don't think older people are smarter than younger people I just think they were given a better education.

Side: True.
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How is "smart" measured?

Side: True.
Cartman(18192) Clarified
1 point

What reasoning do you use to pick this side over the other?

Side: True.
lolzors93(3225) Clarified
1 point

Because the young are foolish and wise in their own sight. The elders are wise and foolish in their own sight.

Side: True.
1 point

with the advancement of technology youths may be more prone to the technical world but it seems that older people may have perceived a good quality practical knowledge.young people have a good knowledge of everything but the grassroots are learnt from the old people only.

Side: True.

When it comes to wisdom and strong willed then yes.

Side: True.
1 point

Well, aside from education, older people naturally have had more life experiences than younger people. This is probably a greater factor in any disparity that is present.

Side: True.
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Well if you actually think about it.. I'm eleven and I look up to my Granny. She was around in W.W.2 so she knows about that which I don't know very much about. Yes us people born in the last 40 years might be better at the technical side of things. But that dosent mean that we are smarter. People who are over 60 would be smarter than anyone else younger because they have already gone through most of their life and have experienced life's ups and downs and have learnt from their mistakes!

Side: True.

Obviously old people are smarter than younger people. They have been around longer, therefore know more. I would never dare to try and make an argument that I am more intelligent than my elders. However, it is true that we know more around certain things, for example what the other side is referring to, things such as Ipads and other "high" technology products. But Older people also know more about things that we as younger people do not know.

Side: True.

Formal education is a really bad example as the only means of intelligence. Life and work experiences are much more important in judging intelligence.

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Whats that? Is it time for bingo?

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Wrong, you have the most potential for learning growing up. Older people have already reached their peek of how far they can go on most things. Also humans adapt for survival, the young generation adapts to the thinking style of the old and realizes why they do the things they do, and than we choose ours. I think young people are more intellectual.

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If the difference between old and young is that the old have realized their potential, it would appear that older people are smarter but that younger people will get there. At least that's what your post seems to be saying.

An empty glass doesn't contain more water than a full one simply because it is yet to be filled.

Side: True.
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Exactly. Because if this smartness that the OP is based on acquired knowledge and experience, clearly old people are much smarter.

Side: True.
Thewayitis(4071) Disputed
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Kite626, "Young people leave home now while you still know everything."

I read this once on a bumper sticker and just because young people think they know everything, doesn't mean they do.

Side: True.
downvote(53) Disputed
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Nothing personal but I've read your quotes.

http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/ Need opiniononmyquotes

Side: True.
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Uh, 42% is higher than 41%. It looks like the post secondary school numbers show the younger people are smarter.

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Compared to the older generation, the younger generation has a higher percentage of people who have not completed High School. Let's call that percentage X. This number represents the stupid, young, people.

Compared to the older generation, the younger generation has a higher percentage of people who have completed post secondary school. Let's call that percentage Y. This number represents the smart, young people.

Notice that X > Y. This means that even though the younger generation has a higher percentage of smart people, compared to smart old people, the younger generation has a much higher percentage of stupid people, compared to old people. So any gains made in Y is drastically offset by X.

Let's say (from left to right) 1 represents stupid and 10 represents smart. The old people would range between 5 and 9 inclusive. The young people would range between 2 and 10. That means that if there were 10 old people, they would all fall within 5 and 9 but the 10 young people would be spread out more. There would be 3 really stupid, young, people and only one really smart one. If both people, the old and the young, follow the bell curve (which is a reasonable assumption) then the top of the bell would be shifted left (dumb) for the young people and right (smart) for the old people.

Hell..., the fact that I have to explain this to you proves my point ;)

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Cartman(18192) Disputed
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But the bell curve for post secondary shifts to the right for the younger generation and that's the group that big companies want to hire. Who hires people with just a high school diploma?

Side: True.
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The article is ridiculous. Big companies are complaining that they can't find "skilled" workers which just means job experience. How are you supposed to find people out of college with 30 years job experience like the old fart being replaced. The problem is the big companies forgot what skills they are looking for.

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The graph doesn't really support what you're saying...

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Yes it does.

Compared to the older generation, the younger generation has a higher percentage of people who have not completed High School. Let's call that percentage X. This number represents the stupid, young, people.

Compared to the older generation, the younger generation has a higher percentage of people who have completed post secondary school. Let's call that percentage Y. This number represents the smart, young people.

Notice that X > Y. This means that even though the younger generation has a higher percentage of smart people, compared to smart old people, the younger generation has a much higher percentage of stupid people, compared to old people. So any gains made in Y is drastically offset by X.

Let's say (from left to right) 1 represents stupid and 10 represents smart. The old people would range between 5 and 9 inclusive. The young people would range between 2 and 10. That means that if there were 10 old people, they would all fall within 5 and 9 but the 10 young people would be spread out more. There would be 3 really stupid, young, people and only one really smart one. If both people, the old and the young, follow the bell curve (which is a reasonable assumption) then the top of the bell would be shifted left (dumb) for the young people and right (smart) for the old people.

Hell..., the fact that I have to explain this to you proves my point ;)

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Old people are usually socially conservative which means they detest the idea of progress and revolution, that is one of the biggest things that make them less smart than young people! Young people are forward thinkers, they welcome change and progress and most of all they are more intellectual!

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Intellectual? Hardly. Progress and change for the sake of progress and change is not all it's cracked up to be ;)

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I told my professor that young people are more innovative because they are foolish enough to think the professors may be wrong.

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