But I suppose there are two sorts of liberals. College age Obama liberals, and the correct definition of liberal, as in desiring freedom and equality, but not a communistic equality, but the acceptance that you should treat all people as being born equal. What accomplishments or failures occur after that is up to them. I believe in human rights and freedom to do as you desire, within bounds, I believe that humans should be able to own property and be entitled to what they've worked for. And of course, free speech is necessary 100%.
I feel that humanity, despite each person being separate in body and mind, should still try to work together for a better world.
Well, I don't see anything wrong with writing a lot. I simply have a lot to say about a various amount of subjects, along with having a well rounded and educated opinion. If by well educated one means getting straight A's in school, no, I do not do so well in my classes, but if you mean a person who is well cultured, having talked to people from Finland, Germany, India, people from Brazil, China, Japan and many other places, then yes. Not only do I talk to these people but I learn about their culture, and their past cultures, such as ancient Greece, Egypt, Mesoamerica and even cultures within the USA. I also am knowledgeable of computers, knowing a bit about programming, about the internet, about soldering, about circuits and hardware and other areas of technology, not to mention my love of science and nature, including plants and animals and minerals, not to mention the stars and interstellar space. All this has lead to me thinking that freedom and equality are important. I do not think that all people are equal, such as the fact that Asians often do score higher on tests than white people, yet I see no reason as to why that makes any difference. If a person desires to do great things, that person will do great things. From a person in a poor African village who invented electricity to provide light at night using scraps from a science textbook and a bicycle wheel, and a few other spare parts, to Alan Turing, a person who invented the modern computer almost single handedly who was oppressed and chemically castrated for being gay, I feel that freedom of information, liberty to do as you desire within reason and the ability to own property and attain funding from a helpful people's government in order to start a business or invent something, even if you are born poor is something that everyone should have. If that is being liberal, then yes, I am a liberal.
All I'm saying is that it is ironic that you would post a long dissertation on your liberal views on a debate that basically says that liberals are long winded and then follow it up with an even longer one. ;)
Well, although liberals are often long winded, I find that some are actually more long winded by others by a large degree. I have sometimes talked to friends who are "typical liberals" who can go on and on and on about a topic, even when that topic has nothing more to say about it. Basically, they just begin writing things just to fill in space, things that contain no actual meaning at all. They go backwards and forwards, reexplaining their points countless times, in an attempt to lengthen their argument or statement. It is somewhat of a problem how they do this, by providing an argument within an argument, all the while trying to convince others that their argument is the best, simply because they write a lot. Even if what they write contains absolutely no information at all, someone might still read it and agree with it, simply because they are also liberal. In the end, it makes almost no sense to write all this, but simply because it looks like a lot, people assume you're writing something useful, when in reality you could repeat the same point again and again, such as mentioning how pointless this is to write, yet I do it anyways simply to provide an example of useless, long winded writing. Now, even though you might think this contains no information, someone still did type this up, so you would THINK it contains some sort of objective, but it really doesn't. From the beginning, I had no idea what I wanted to write, yet in order to provide a bit of evidence for what you've said, I have decided to write all this anyways, no matter how long it takes. It is boring, yes, but I find it necessary to do such a thing, however long and drawling it is. A horrible task, yet still entertaining in it's own, twisted way. Now, about liberalism, many now days seem to think that "gay rights" or "vegetarianism" or "socialism" or "public healthcare" is good. Now, I do agree, to some degree, yet I do not think that those issues are important enough to center your entire political philosophy around. Gay rights should be expected, eating vegetables is healthy, but hardly related to politics, socialism is alright if you have the funding and support, which the USA lacks, and public healthcare will work perfectly for a few years, until it stops working and crashes into a puddle of primordial goo of some sort. It is bound to fail as soon as a republican reaches office for more than four years, so there's really no way to rectify this issue. However, I do feel that being progressive is useful, because when you break from tradition, you often require learning and new knowledge, a new, better method, which is the main reason people ARE progressive. However, if you are conservative, you are often old or rich, and do not want a newer system in place, even if it's inherently better. It looks like a risk to you, being set in the older, more traditional ways, so it would only appear unwise to support it. Of course, the strange thing about healthcare is the unemployment rate. Computers and robots have taken over many jobs, along with outsourcing, so if you don't provide healthcare, what do you do if a poorer person gets hurt? Of course, if the majority of people are poor, then that means the rich will have to pay for nearly everyone else. But then, the rich also support the government, right? They get to lobby and spend money on politicians, which makes it a very fair system of equal exchange. Now, what I've said it completely obvious, but not something everyone thinks about, but that's exactly why I said it. There was no point to it, it was only taking up space, as I mentioned above. The entire point of existence is to take up space while doing something that might look in important, but in reality is worth absolutely nothing at all. Just like you.
