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Provided more ammo Yelled, "Hold your fire!"
Debate Score:14
Arguments:9
Total Votes:15
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What would have done if had been at the scene where this took place?

POLK COUNTY FLORIDA SHERIFF GRADY JUDD  

An illegal alien in Polk County Florida who got pulled over in a routine
traffic stop ended up 'executing' the deputy who stopped him.  

 

The deputy was shot eight times, including once behind his right ear at close range.  Another deputy was wounded and a police dog killed.   

 


A state wide manhunt ensued.  

The murderer was found hiding in a wooded area with his gun.

 

After he shot at them, SWAT team officers open fired and hit the guy 68 times………..  

Now here's the kicker:

Naturally, the liberal media went nuts and asked why they shot the poor undocumented immigrant 68 times.

Sheriff Grady Judd told the Orlando Sentinel: (Talk about an all-time classic answer.)

 

 
'Because that's all the ammunition we had.'

Provided more ammo

Side Score: 9
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Yelled, "Hold your fire!"

Side Score: 5

It's a sad state of affairs when the budget for police officers isn't enough for a decent amount of ammo ;)

Side: Provided more ammo
2 points

Funny, I watch liberal media quite often, and I never heard hide nor tail of this story,

are you sure this isn't just another case of conservative media trying to demonize liberals?

Anyway, ignoring that the very fist line, that he happened to be an illegal immigrant, has 0 to do with the story other than throw fuel on the Lou Dobbs hate fire,

I have no problem with anyone shooting anyone who shoots a cop as many times as they feel necessary,

Liberal as I am,

seems like kind of a waste of ammo after 9 or 10, but whatever

Side: Provided more ammo
1 point

Yay, i would have definitely provided more ammo and joined in blowing the economy-sucking infidel's brains out. They do not belong here! This is not their country... we fought and won that war and had already bought this land previously. They need to check the history records alittle more closely. We might have lost the Battle at the Alamo, but we kicked Santa Anna's sorry butt back across the border later on~! V

GO USA 4ever~! V

Side: Provided more ammo
2 points

Definitely would have done the same thing. I can't stand how those people are just coming over her willy nilly, getting pregnant, and then claiming that since their "child" was born here they have to stay here. We can throw them back across the boarder just as easily as they came over here. The kidd can have dual citizenship, but the parents DO NOT~! C

Side: Provided more ammo
1 point

The gain of shooting more bullets into that guy is less than the actual monetary cost of the extra bullets.

Side: Provided more ammo
2 points

Save the ammo for times when you CAN'T kill the bastard, instead of shooting it into a dead body.

Side: Yelled,
1 point

First: Source on this. Both an article on the occurrence from an unbiased source as well as evidence of the supposed "liberal media" position.

Secondly: I have no idea why Conservatives would promote waste in government. Shouldn't the officers have used enough bullets, not an ungodly amount? The guy couldn't have been standing after one bullet entered his body, much less 10-20-30-40-50-60-70-80 bullets.

Sounds abit retributive, sounds personal. Which is understandable, but sort of a waste of money.

To put it in blunt terms: why waste bullets on a criminal?

Side: Yelled,

Hmmm...., you've got a point there..... I think they billed his family for the bullets though ;)

Side: Provided more ammo
1 point

The veracity of the version given by the police officer i.e., that the police officer had been shot 8 times and that the police dog got shot is something that can't now be verified; it would have been useful to capture the suspect alive, maybe it would have given the police some insights as to how to prevent such things from happening in their own and others' interest .. and how do you really know that the police officer only was doing a " routine " check ? How did the police officer get shot at so close a range ? and what was the police dog doing there and how come it got shot ? Were these police officers who shot 66 bullets through the suspect acting desperately to hide the evidence ? Maybe that person was not really an illegal immigrant, but someone who had rubbed the police officer on the wrong side and the police officer wanted to show 'how strong is your fight ". Maybe the police officers would do the same to you next time you run into one of these 'routine checks '. Maybe there was a really different story, which no one will know. Passing judgements on the basis of only one side's version is a very unsafe method of judicial administration. How do you know this wont happen to you ? I mean you could just get shot by a police officer and his pals, and the version they could give to the public was that you were an "illegal migrant" who had shot at them ...

Side: get him alive