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Client444(61) Clarified
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Hmm... That's a different way to look at it... But it's not what I'm saying. Most likely, the reason one will go to Theistic Evolution is because they accept Evolution as unfalsifiable. Now, this is not "God getting involved and making Evolution seem unfalsifiable." This is a person believing all the things people tell them and believing that it has been proven without a shadow of a doubt.

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Uhh... No. Really, pretty much all of science is falsifiable. Turning any part into an unfalsifiable postulate without sufficient evidence is dangerous.

Client444(61) Clarified
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I did not mean to agree. I meant to say that a Theistic Evolutionist normally accepts both evolution and the Bible as unfalsifiable.

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SLAVERY

This page gives a pretty good in context description of the slavery going on.

KILLING SOMEONE FOR BEING HELPFUL

I'm pretty sure what's actually happening here is God teaching people to have faith in Him. He wouldn't let the Ark of His Covenant fall to the ground. Just because the oxen stumbled doesn't mean God would have. Also, I'm not even sure of what's falling in this passage; Uzzah could be falling and take hold of the Ark to steady himself. If so, he could have grabbed on to many other things, and did not have to grab the Ark.

I am gonna get off for a while, but I will come back and finish the list later.

Client444(61) Clarified
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I understand where you're coming from, and I'm sorry if you feel I have a bad attitude. I will address the statements you make on the linked page.

Client444(61) Clarified
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Criminal conspiracy is considered a crime as well as murder and thievery. Though you did not directly commit the crime in question, you did manipulate and deceive another into doing it.

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I did not do that... I was trying to state that both are unfalsifiable in the mind of a Theistic Evolutionist.

Client444(61) Clarified
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Theistic Evolution is the topic of this debate, believing that God or a god made Creation using Evolution.

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Matthew 13: 24-30 gives a pretty good description of what's going on in most of this. Besides, there's no evidence of Him directly saying "Yeah, you can go rape people; you know, burn some witches too. Oh, and while you're at it, why don't you enslave some people?"

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You didn't understand what I was saying, but that's not your fault, as I've worded my previous dispute incorrectly. Unfalsifiable, yes. However, if one believes in Theistic Evolution, one believes both of the components to be unfalsifiable.

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Now, I understand what you are saying here. However, I want to clear a few things up. I know Lilmisfit is well-educated. I just don't like it when people claim that God is cruel, when there's a reason behind all He does. Also, for a second, I forgot we weren't arguing about whether or not God exists. Sorry about that.

Now, about my use of the term subjective. I just see people always count off subjective evidence in God v. No-God debates, asking for objective evidence. I always accept subjective evidence, but I take it subjectively, while pairing it with what I know and what God shows me.

Thank you, zephyr20x6, for your input! It was insightful.

Client444(61) Clarified
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No, the misunderstanding was my fault, I think, for the way I worded it.

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I understand where you are coming from. However, to completely believe in Theistic Evolution, one accepts both as unfalsifiable.

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I understand where you are coming from. However, to completely believe in Theistic Evolution, one accepts both as unfalsifiable.

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Yes, I know this. However, if one is believing in Theistic Evolution, they are basically completely accepting both as unfalsifiable.

Client444(61) Clarified
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An example in the Bible of this is a parable told by Jesus himself, found in Matthew 13: 24-30.

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Would the unfalsifiable fairy tale be evolution? If so, I think you're on the right track.

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Yeah... You have no clue either, just like AveSatanas. If you're gonna have a subjective reason not to believe in something, but then reject any subjective reasons that God exists, obviously you are a hypocrite.

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Hahaha, yeah... You have no clue what you're talking about.

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I'm gonna step into the den of the troll here. You've no idea what you're talking about. Obviously, God has a physical brain(in the form of Jesus). However, God's other two components(The Father and The Holy Spirt) are beyond my comprehension and I am unable to say what they look like. However, I do know that God does love every single one of us.

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This page as well as many others will show you my evidence. Just look it up.

Also, you seem to not understand free-will entirely. Or omniscience. To say that only one could exist is silly. That's forgivable, though, 'cos you're not omniscient. Yes, we do have free-will. However, there's only one possible outcome(one that is too complicated for us to figure out).

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I'm a firm believe that God does not want people to be blind servants. Being the loving God that He is, He wants us to have a choice of whether or not to serve Him. Now, without suffering, without this life, would we have this choice, or enough information to make this choice? So, is God cruel? Definitely not. Is He loving? Definitely so.

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I'd trust the tribe much more, especially if they actually, you know, were talking to the omniscient and omnipotent God. Besides, in your position, you would say that Dinosaurs lived millions, if not billions, of years ago. So, why do radiocarbon dates yield dates MUCH LOWER than that? You'd probably dismiss it. But, why would you dismiss it there, but claim it to be right here?

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I don't think it changed in time. Actually, I think it remained quite the same. Also, what you're doing here is putting your faith in radiocarbon dating, something that scientists now don't normally use, as dinosaur bones yield dates of less than 60,000 years. Explain that. Is modern science just another fictional tale?



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