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True. Wait..., what? No!!!
Debate Score:8
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All the problems of the world are man-made --- therefore, they should be solved by man.

Not God.

True.

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Wait..., what? No!!!

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God didn't start the fire. It started burning when man came into being ;)

Side: True.
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Purging the world of evil is the work of each one of us. We must purge evil from within us ;)

Side: True.
dadman(1703) Disputed
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pfft ............... not any more than a leopard can change his spots .....

a wise man once said: "if you want to live a sinless life , then pray for death" ..... Bob George

Side: Wait..., what? No!!!
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I don't see the value of doing nothing except wait for God to fix our problems. God helps those who help themselves. In other words, God works thru us. If that is not the case, then why did He need Noah, Moses and the rest to do His job for Him?

If we are to let God fix things, why fight for anti-abortion?

Side: Wait..., what? No!!!
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within man are the seeds of his own destruction .... he has no ability to cease the title wave of the depravities overtaking us ..... it's just a matter of time until the teeter totters and then all hell will break lose .... the restrainer of evil will be moved aside and sin will enjoy free reign ... and then in the fullness of time, God will rise and bring evil to its fateful end ..... it's okay, keep on believing in the superiority of man .. nothing more than perpetual self-inflicted frustration and depression .... indeed that is what atheists do best, is lie to yourselves ..... http://dadmansabode.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=37#p37

Side: Wait..., what? No!!!
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"All the problems of the world are man-made --- therefore, they should be solved by man." ......

pfft !! ... that's like asking a bunch a four year olds to start taking care of their parents

........ ain't gonna happen

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Since we have accepted the technology of the atom and have rejected the sermon on the mount ..

we therefore now live in a society full of nuclear giants and ethical infants .. > http://dadmansabode.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=760#p760 <

Side: Wait..., what? No!!!
ghostheadX(1105) Disputed
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How is all technology going to send us to hell other than tech that is deliberately created to harm others? It has solved a lot. Cave men lived much shorter lives. I know and I haven't even read the whole article:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/how-think-neandertal/201311/the-truth-about-the-caveman-diet

Population of humans has grown rapidly as technology has advanced:

http://history-world.org/ancient_civilization.htm

This is because in cave man times we much more often ate raw meat (which has parasites) and were exposed to things that could kill us more often like Tigers. A man without a gun ain't killing no bear by hand, and to do so would require something like a spear, which is early tech, but to be maximally safe we needed guns. Very few humans on Earth are able to wrestle bears and frankly the bears are probably going pretty easy on the human even in that case. There was a famous UFC fighter who barely managed to do so from time to time and he was famous for doing that and he was one of the best fighters in the world and it wasn't exactly a strong bear.

Technology has allowed humans to solve problems using their brains. If we stayed as cave men we wouldn't heal as well and would die of colds. Even in Medieval Times, something as minor as the cold could kill someone because they'd have it for months:

http://www.medieval-life-and-times.info/ medieval-life/medieval-medicine.htm

A lot of the things that were supposed to be unbreakable punishments from God, were curable because an infection from a simple wound could kill someone since we didn't have antibiotics at that time. But today most of that stuff can be eliminated very quickly with a first aid kit or a short trip to the doctor, no prayers to god needed and no churches needed.

I'm not saying religion is wrong or that it is bad. I'm a little bit religious myself. But saying man's problems don't come from themselves seems like an excuse not to take responsibility and do stuff yourself. Now I'm Jewish mind you, and my religion is different from Christianity in that Judaism puts right practice over right belief.

I believe God wants us to take responsibility for problems we create for ourselves. Even without an argument from the Torah, saying that a man who does drugs is not the one killing himself is naive and just plain wrong. So is the person who believes suicide is not an action of a human, even if it is listening to Satan (same as drugs). Even if these things come from people listening to Satan, humans have a choice to do otherwise. Sorry, but I don't blame the devil for my own choice to listen to him.

If society could man up and face this, we'd realize that even if Satan inspires terrorists to blow up buildings, those terrorists still have a choice not to do so.

Thus, there are very few problems that are not man made and a lot of the ones that are, like a large percentage of diseases out there even though a lot of life threatening diseases out there unsolved, we have prevented most future polio cases from occurring in the first place. I guess Earthquakes and other natural disasters like volcanoes are unsolvable, but that's it.

If we blame our problems on other causes even when we made them for ourselves, we cannot solve them. End of story. Treat the symptom and you only make things temporarily better. Eliminate the cause and the problem slowly diminishes permanently.

Believing in God is not an excuse not to take responsibility for your own actions, and I think God agrees because otherwise you can kill anyone you want and arguably say it isn't your fault they died.

Side: True.
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I wonder what Pope Urban the II is up to right now.

When is the next crusade battle? Is it Tuesday? I need to check my calendar.

Side: Wait..., what? No!!!