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Sure seems that way. Wait..., what? No!!!
Debate Score:9
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 Sure seems that way. (5)
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Sure seems that way.

Side Score: 6

Wait..., what? No!!!

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Any conservative voting for Hillary is a RINO.

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Grenache(6053) Clarified
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Keep in mind that's how you crushed all your own Republican contenders until all you had left was Trump.

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IAmSparticus(1516) Clarified
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Good. About time more people started being RINO's. This country needs a legitimate conservative party, and considering the guy they just chose as their presidential contender, the Republican Party clearly isn't it.

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Remember that movie, War Games? Where the computer finally realizes that the only way to win a zero-sum-game is not to play at all? Well, unfortunately, we cannot take that advice on this year's presidential election. Unless you plan on moving to Canada. And even then, Canada may not be safe from invasion. ;)

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Great movie!


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Trumpy is far more disliked by the GOP than Hillary is by the DNC. (whose convention begins this tonight, BTW!)

I would say, in fact, that the percentage of Republicans who will NOT vote for Trump is at least triple or quadruple the percentage of Dems who will boycott Clinton.

Here's the thing, Erving: Any liberal Dem who was gonna pull the lever for Bernie will most likely just suck it up and vote for Hillary. As they know she is a far more palatable choice to them for POTUS than Trumpy.

But this cannot be said for GOP voters who liked Cruz or Carson or Rubio. I bet most of those guys won't vote for Trump.

But as far as changing sides, that's not how it usually works. Only Independents usually do that, as in: maybe they voted for Obama in 2012 and now they are sick of Social Democracy and they hate Obama Care so they're gonna go with Trumpy, since he has promised to repeal it if he gets into the White House.

A true loyal Party Member does not switch sides. They usually go Independent, or not vote at all. Or go with a 3rd or 4th Party Candidate who might siphon off a few thousand votes from their Opposing Party, be it the DNC or the GOP.


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What you fail to realize (I love it when people start out like that ;) is that Michael Moore has already predicted a Trump win.

And liberals believe everything Moore says ;)

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SlapShot(2608) Disputed
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I could give two shits what Michael Moore predicts.

He is not a professional pollster. I'll put myself up against him in political science savvy any day.

Hillary Rodham Clinton will be the next President of the United States.

She will beat Trump by about 53-45%. With the other 2% being split between the two other Candidates, including the Green Party.

I have a knack for predicting political elections and races. In 2004 and 2008 I won $5000 in a contest with some other Poli Sci guys in my school in a pool to see who could come closest in percentages for election outcome. I used to work as a campaign strategist for my Congressman in Michigan when he ran for r/e back in 2012.

So...yeah, like I say, Moore is wrong. And the race between Trumpy and Hillary ain't even gonna be as close as many think. Guys like Trump, that is, Outsiders who spiel Centrist Populist jingo during the campaign usually see an unexpected low vote percentage on election day. It has to do with the voters deciding to play it safe and go with experience over brash outsiders when it comes to nut-cutting time.

It happened to Ross Perot. It worked for Bush the Younger when he got re-elected, though many were unhappy with the war he got us into. He played the Fear Mongering Card of how we had not been attacked since 9/11. Saying he kept us safe and we should stick with him.

It worked.

Hillary will go along the same lines. Talking about how dangerous the world is right now, and about her vast global politics experience, and her eight years in the White House, and asking us if we really want some inexperienced billionaire with a hair-trigger temper who is used to getting what he wants dealing with foreign hostiles.

And so some of those on-the-fence folks are gonna decide to err on the side of caution. This is enough to get her back in the White House.

Write down those percentages I predicted. Then we will talk again on the day after the election.



Side: Sure seems that way.