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Aren't Christians, Muslims and Jews just a little bit atheist when compared to H

The definition of "atheist" is: a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods.

Hindus have a ton of Gods.  Christians, Muslims and Jews believe that there can be only one (discarding all the rest).  They lack belief in the existence of many Gods.  Therefore, they are atheists.

The definition of "religion" is: a particular system of faith and worship.

Since it is impossible to prove a negative, atheists cannot disprove the existence of God.  Therefore, their belief system is based on faith and they are thus a little bit religious.

Christians, Muslims, Jews and atheists should declare solidarity, calm their tits, and stop with the religious debates.

True.

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It is true Muslims are not Atheist ! But the Progressive Left views "The Religion Of Peace" as a peaceful religion even though a Muslim shot up a Gay Bar in Orlando ! Shall we forget Fort Hood , Boston and San Bernadino ? What is peaceful about a religion that wants to kill all they view as the Infidel ?

Side: True.
Lunarsia(5) Disputed
2 points

I understand the struggles and the loss of lives in the Orlando shooting however, are you blaming a religion consisting of a billion lives based on the actions of a few? Islam is a peaceful religion and it doesn't support these treacherous events, it is the people who rebel against it. I can say that every person claiming to be "Muslim" by having to bomb people doesn't have a shrewd of knowledge about Islam. In our holy Quran a verse which says "For you is your religion, and for me is my religion." You have your own and I do not interfere with that, and I have my own and you do not interfere with that. I personally have nothing against people with different religion for I am a Muslim myself. Those group of people such as KKK do not represent Christianity as well as ISIS does not represent Islam. Do not blame us all for the wrongs of a few.

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outlaw60(15368) Disputed
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As i told your counterpart Cartman who committed the 2nd Worst Mass Shooting in American History ?

Side: True.
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Re: " Islam is a peaceful religion"

Not true. There are scores of passages in the Koran about smiting the Infidel and in the countries that are Islamically dominated, other religions do not fare well. Maybe you should qualify your comment by saying Islam is a peaceful religion as long as you're a Muslim, but even then, Muslims don't get along with each other either. Sunni and Shia, for example.

Here are few passages of the "peaceful" "religion":

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them" No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle.

Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah').

There are many more found at:

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/ quran/violence.aspx

The truth be told, I didn't need to point these out since you already know about it.

Side: True.

Christians are just one God short of being an atheist.

Side: True.

Atheists do have a belief. They believe there is no god..............

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Cartman(18192) Disputed
1 point

Second statement is false.

Side: True.
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I can't actually agree with my own B.S. because I get a lot of millage out of inciting religious wars ;)

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Jupiter(116) Clarified
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I respect that

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Side: True.
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Since it is impossible to prove a negative, atheists cannot prove that there is no God. Therefore, their belief system is based on faith and they are thus a little bit religious.

This description doesn't match the definition provided for atheists. The definition said that atheists don't believe in God, not that atheists believe there is no God.

Hindus reject all Greek gods. They reject all Norse gods. They reject all Egyptian gods. Etc. They are pretty much just as atheistic as everyone else.

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Everyone is an atheist when it comes to believing in other people's god(s).

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AlofRI(3294) Clarified
1 point

As Richard Dawkins said: "We are ALL Atheists about most of the gods humanity has believed in, some of us just go one god farther."

Side: True.
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Here,I updated the sentence:

Since it is impossible to prove a negative, atheists cannot disprove the existence of God.

The point is that not believing in God is a belief system based on faith because that belief cannot be proven to be true.

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Cartman(18192) Disputed
2 points

Where in the definition of atheism does it say that they disproved God?

Side: True.
shaash(434) Disputed
1 point

Hindus reject all Greek gods. They reject all Norse gods. They reject all Egyptian gods. Etc. They are pretty much just as atheistic as everyone else.

Hindus don't reject any Gods. We believe that everyone has their own way of achieving eternal bliss and they may believe in different forms of Gods which do different things and have different qualities.

Side: True.
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Hindus only have one God .

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outlaw60(15368) Disputed
1 point

Do Muslims hold the view that you do Progressive ? If they do i would like to see your proof that they do !

Side: True.
outlaw60(15368) Disputed
1 point

Hold on here Progressive so what you are saying Muslims are Hindu's ? Well let me ask you Progressive do you have the balls to take your words to a Muslim Nation ?

Side: True.
shaash(434) Disputed
1 point

NO they would kill me. Trust me, I'm just as wary of Muslims as you are. I just think that not every Muslim is a terrorist, and most can be good people.

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Black_Death4(4) Clarified
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No Actually we have 3 main entities which we consider gods, Those being Brahma, Vishnu and Mahesh. Rest are categorized as "Devtas" and have there roles to play. Vishnu creates, Brahma manages and Mahesh(Shiv) destroys. These three are the most supreme and are absolute powerfull entities in Hindu religion. Rest are devtas that were created by these entities to take care of different thing in the world.

Side: True.
shaash(434) Clarified
1 point

Hey a Hindu :-)

But no, the trinity is part of the one supreme power (nature/god). Have you read the Gita?

Side: True.
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Your argument is comparable to saying men who are only attracted to thin beautiful women are a little bit gay when compared to men who are attracted to women of every shape and size. Yes, there's the tiniest grain of truth to it on the sliding scale of what they include or don't include, but the fact remains they're still attracted to females instead of males, which means by definition they're not gay. Likewise, monotheists still believe in the existence of a god as opposed to not believing in any gods, which technically makes then not atheists.

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The definition has an "or" not an "and"

a person who disbelieves OR lacks belief in the existence of God OR gods.

This implies 4 definitions.

A person who disbelieves in the existence of God.

A person who disbelieves in the existence of Gods.

A person who lacks belief in the existence of God.

A person who lacks belief in the existence of Gods.

A person who belives there is only one God, lacks belief in the existence of Gods. That is one of the definitions of an atheist.

Ergo, Christian, Muslim and Jews are atheists.

Q.E.D.

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Lunarsia(5) Disputed
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Please get your facts straight before posting. Atheism is the belief that there are no deities in existence. However, Monotheism is the belief in theology that only one deity exists. This includes monotheistic religions such as Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Baha'i Faith, Sikhism, Zoroastrianism, Eckankar and some forms of Hinduism.

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Are you attracted to fat women?

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I think the definition of atheist should be changed to lack or no belief in a higher power.

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Cartman(18192) Disputed
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That wouldn't accurately define atheism. What is a higher power? That is way too vague. If you believe nature is more powerful than a single species. Does that mean you aren't an atheist?

Side: True.
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A Christian/Muslim/Jew/Hindu is to other gods as an atheist is to all gods, but this does not make them atheists towards those gods. Inconsistent in their faith based disposition, sure. But not atheist.

Atheists may actively disbelieve or may simply lack belief, and if the case is the latter then they are not taking the matter on faith. Nor does taking something on faith make it religious, since faith is not exclusively religious.

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