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Before we rush to adopt Global Warming Policies, we should stop to consider the...
Before we rush to adopt Global Warming Policies, we should stop to consider the consequences of blithely giving these policies such a central position in our lives.
You are making an assumption that these policies will create a better world. I propose we consider the consequences of those policies to make sure that they will in fact create a better world. I don't think we should base policy on cute sound bites ;)
Wait..., what? How does recycling help with GW? For example, it takes more energy to recycle glass than to create it from scratch. Are you trolling me? ;)
Calling it an assumption is kind of misleading I think. Global warming is projected to have major consequences for feed supply and living space. To promote a business-as-usual attitude is to promote famine and slums. It requires fairly simple reasoning to discover that mitigation of climate change will in fact create a better world; we won't have to adapt as much as we would have to, were we to do nothing to prevent crisis.
It's not really a matter of rhetoric. It's a matter of scientific work and absolutely trivial ethical principles.
Global warming is projected to have major consequences..., so..., are we to just drop everything and start changing everything without even considering the implications of our actions? Throw the baby out with the bath water?
Who said anything about promoting business-as-usual? I said consider the implications. It requires fairly simple reasoning to discover that not every mitigation of climate change will create a better world. It is sound advice to consider which mitigation will be most effective and give us the biggest bang for our bucks.
It's not really a matter rhetoric. It's a matter of using sound logic and common sense over freaking out and running around claiming that the end is near ;)
Oh sorry, I think I misunderstood the debate then. Of course we want to pick the right way deal with this predicament. I don't think, for example, that geoengineering is the right way to go.
Isn't this the side where the people who are generally for abortion would also be? Isn't getting an abortion usually following not considering the consequences of not using protection. I don't know if any consequences will be considered in the Global Warming policies either.
(Healthier way of life in general- less pollution from transport, less photochemical smog, less bronchitis, less acid rain, more advancement in renewable fuel technologies...)
People want things like big cars, long haul holidays. Companies want to make profits at the expense of others, so they might not invest in technologies that make no difference to their profits but reduce their environmental impact~ greed for money, basically.
Currently the economy is not doing so hot. Now, let's say we tell companies that they have to buy expensive hardware in order to reduce pollution or cut back on production. What do you think will happen?
Large companies are running a hell of a profit nowadays anyway. But it would be too much to hope that they would take a cut from the profit~ they'd probably cut worker's pay or something like that.
What are you talking about? Record profits? The economy is in the tank. Look at what's happening in Portugal, Ireland, Greece, and Spain. Have you heard the word "austerity?" Do you know what the unemployment rate is?
And yet you hear about the businesses with their rich managers, while the government is slowly dying. Personal wealth could be an issue, possibly. In the UK we have a problem as well~ yet the government is happily spending away like there's no tomorrow on things we don't need. My school, for example. Top of the range computers- hundreds of them, a new technology block- there was nothing wrong with the old one, an Astroturf in the place of our grass field, an amphitheatre that isn't used... as an example of government spending gone mad. In America, you invest too much in the military.
OK. So the bottom line is that we are in financial straits and we can't just go spending money nilly willy on policies that may or may not work or that may result in an even worse situation. We need to be smart about what policies, if any, to implement. See? ;)
Maybe some of the more expensive renewable technologies can be advanced from a different angle- but other environmental policies ~'clean' coal, less pesticides/fertilisers are important.
I rather just leave things the way they are; business as usual. If/when it gets bad enough, people will start dying and fewer people means less CO2 and the planet will start to cool again. ;)
Maybe the people who die will be the poor who can't afford to move or don't have access to media. And there's the animals who are completely blameless in this scenario, who will lose habitat etcetera. It's not all about rising sea levels due to heat expansion of water and land ice melting (the stuff about icebergs is complete nonsense, that's just a symptom- icebergs melting won't cause the sea levels to rise), there's also the problem of glaciers disappearing which means some communities will have to relocate or die out because there is no water(Nepal). Drought won't be too nice, either, in Africa conflicts are already beginning over water supplies (people have been killed).
great so now as well as getting sun-burnt because of the "hole" in the ozone layer above my head, caused by the worlds use of CFC's, I now have to wait as the environment around me deteriorates because of climate change.
We can have an affect on the globe if you don't believe me come to New Zealand and go out in the summer without protection from the sun... Why does this country have such hight rates of skin cancer???? oh that's right because the sun is so strong because of the thinness of the ozone layer above it.
and now because we are failing to do something about the global climate change (its not just warming). later on in my life I can starve to death because the crops we depend on won't grow because the insects that pollinated them died.
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I invite all of my allies and enemies to all of my debates. You don't have to participate i you don't want to. I was just been nice an included everyone so no one feels left out ;)
