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True Wait..., what? No!
Debate Score:21
Arguments:17
Total Votes:21
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Except For Ending Slavery, Fascism, Nazism and Communism, WAR has Never Solved Anything.

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Side Score: 12
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Wait..., what? No!

Side Score: 9
3 points

For those who want to be technical. Slavery as it once existed in the united states has ended. Slavery around the world still exists if not in a more meager form. Nazism as a fringe ideology still exists but the threat of Nazism to global security has effectively ended. Fascism, well I'm not sure what this is even referring to, but Fascism is alive and well today. Communism wasn't really ended by war at least not in any direct way, the USSR fell because it's economy couldn't be sustained.

So while war is a terrible thing that results in many deaths, it must remain an option when all other negotiations fail, and yes sometimes it actually works.

Side: True
2 points

It ended the lives of many, ended the happiness of their families, fucked up economies, slowed down progress of societies, divided countries, and a long list of et ceteras.

Except for those, war never really solved or ended anything at all. Probably the only good thing any war has ever done was defeating Hitler. He caused the war, so it was, in a way, necessary, otherwise the world would end up in his wrong hands.

But it didn't end anything. Slavery, Fascism, Communism, and Nazism, they all still exist. Only slavery is subtle nowadays, nazism is powerless and reduced to punks with delusions of activism, communism and fascism are still a reality in some countries (russian countries, china, etc). And also, there are still some dictatorships in existence, although nothing alarming when compared to Hitler's dictatorship.

Side: True
2 points

This is both true and false.

Slavery has not ended all around the world, and still not in this country either; it's just far more discrete and disguised behind big words and smart brains.

Fascism has not ended around the world, and still not in this country either; it's just far more discrete and disguised behind big words and smart brains.

Nazism hasn't ended anywhere, period. It just has no huge power in the global scale.

Communism never had any power to begin with that needed to be ended... it was just dictators saying they were communist when they were obviously off by a long shot after you look at the ideals of Karl Marx.

Once you throw that bit of information out, war has solved absolutely nothing in anything. Not wars for territory, resources, religion, spite, morality, etc. It never solves anything and never will. The ending of human lives through savage combat over such-and-such concept isn't going to make humankind any better as a whole.

Side: True

I wonder what else we can end with some good old fashion Can-o-whoopass ;)

Side: True
1 point

meh... they are all hackers nowadays. With scoped rifles and auto-fire sub-machine guns and radars and overpowered nuclear bombs, and all that cheating stuff.

In the good ole days they were real men. They fought with melee weapons and bows and crossbows, and catapults and all that Man stuff. Now that was skill. :) They all went into a could of dust, fists coming in and out, and at the end of the day they would celebrate their victory with some good ole bear, or mourn their defeat with some homemade healing herbs and a kiss on the wound from the wives.

I miss these days already... :D

Side: True

I didn't know you were that old ;)

Side: True

True, but Slavery, Fascism, Nazism and Communism are extremely bad, so I'm glad they were solved.

Side: True
1 point

I think a better thing to say would be that war has helped stopped imperial countries of certain ideologies from continuing their imperialism.

The Third Reich was a danger towards Europe and Hitler and the SS were monsters. While it's possible that we could have stopped the Third Reich in some other way, War seems to have worked.

As for Communist take over, we focused more on giving aid to countries that were threatened by Communism. The Vietnam and Korean War wasn't our war, exactly, it was theirs. American interest was to keep the Communist from getting strong, and i'm not too sure if the Cold War and this whole macho man thing vs. the commies was the right thing to do, but never-the-less, the USSR has fallen, but I would attribute that more to American competition with the Soviets. We had a better economy and they could not keep up.

As for slavery, the Civil War did not really end slavery. In fact, the war started because of Federal failures to keep up with the Great Compromise. Slavery eventually dissolved after the war, and it is somewhat the attributed to the victory of the North, but the cost in lives may not have been worth it. After all, it wasn't victory that ended slavery, it was legislation.

War, to me, is not always necessary, but thinking up alternatives isn't always that easy. What we should do, instead of being a bunch of assholes who point the finger, is look to past and see what we could have done better and apply that to the future.

Side: True
CHE guevara(16) Disputed
1 point

CHE GUEVARA.KALININ.JOSEF STALIN.VLADIMIR LENIN.KAROL MARX.FREDRICH ENGELS.LEON TROSKY.PANCHO VILLA.ZAPATA.COMANDANTE MACROS.AND EVERYBODY ELSE THATS A COMMUNIST

Side: SOCIALISM WORKS

Fascism has ended? (insert rest of 50 character response here.)

Side: Wait..., What? No!
1 point

It also kept population numbers in check, due to no natural selection process in modern times the stupid breed like rabbits. Now if these guys want to blow each other away...let them, war is not the problem its just human nature. Also through history war has eliminated alot of feral tribes and races that were closer to wild animals than people. Communism is alive and growing though out China and Russia, americans are to distracted by ragheads, Mc donalds and the brain dead plot lines of their tv shows to notice. Americans are slaves. War solves alot of things....just like running over your nabours dog when you have asked many times to have it stop taking a mud on my front lawn.

Side: Wait..., What? No!

This could not have been more wrong. Slavery, Fascism, and Nazism and Communism still exist. Human trafficking of slaves around the world. Fascist and Nazi nutjobs still roam the streets, and Communism is still in China and Cuba.

Sure, war only creates death and destruction.

Side: Wait..., What? No!
1 point

I don't mean anything disrespectful..

and Communism is still in China and Cuba.

But, you sound like your referring to Communism in a negative sense. Are you?

Side: Wait..., What? No!

Of course, I am referring to Communism in a negative sense.

Side: Wait..., What? No!
1 point

No one would ever condone Wars unless they meant to conquer the World, but the WW2 played a huge role in helping many countries gain Independence.

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1 point

It solved economic problems, for example when the National Debt for the British Empire got too high, they conquered more land

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1 point

well u have said u self that war endend somethings.thats the answer!

Side: Wait..., What? No!