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That's my guess. Wait..., what? No!!!
Debate Score:7
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God knows everything - is prayer His way of making you beg?

That's my guess.

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Wait..., what? No!!!

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Gawd... this could easily turn into some really dark and twisted humour XD

Side: That's my guess.
1 point

In previous times after we left the cave and became horticulturalists some tribes created the rain dance so their crops would not fail.

Then we invented religion and in difficult times we prayed for rain.

We are still a very superstitious mob even through we think not.

Side: That's my guess.
1 point

Well God doesn't exist and nothing fails like prayer

If you got sick would you

a) Pray to your god to get better

b) Take Medicine created by Science to treat your illness.

You can only pic one.

Side: That's my guess.
Whyfools(23) Disputed
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Actually, God's way of treating the ailment could be to give you the medicine created by science. Meaning you can pic both.

Side: Wait..., what? No!!!
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What part of a prayer makes you think that you need to beg? Some people pray just so that they can open up and tell God of what happened to them at school. People beg, but only because they're desperate. Don't think that God's making you beg jsut because he says to pray. Probably 99% of the world's population believes in God, so place yourself in the position where you can debate fair and square.

Side: Wait..., what? No!!!
Cuaroc(8826) Disputed
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What part of a prayer makes you think that you need to beg?

The common idea that god knows everything thus praying to him wouldn't be necessary .

Probably 99% of the world's population believes in God, so place yourself in the position where you can debate fair and square.

Making up facts now?

Side: That's my guess.
Starchild123(832) Clarified
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The common idea that god knows everything thus praying to him wouldn't be necessary .

Depends on how you view his omniscience of course. Taking the casual stance yes, God knows absolutely everything.

Making up facts now?

I do agree with you here. I'm fairly his claim is inaccurate.

Side: That's my guess.
thousandin1(1932) Clarified
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The common idea that god knows everything thus praying to him wouldn't be necessary

What I feel we should ask here is this: Is praying really for the benefit of the deity in question, given that assumption, or for the benefit of the faithful? Certainly there is some therapeutic effect simply in pouring ones heart out to someone else, even if it were a fictional being. Genuine belief that their words are being heard by a higher power alone can be a powerful thing for the faithful, psychologically speaking.

Many intercession type prayers are done in the form of group prayer, the benefits of which I've explored in another topic in more detail, but will note here as having important communal properties, as well as motivational, organizational, and informational assistance in whatever material aid can be made. Again- benefits here don't require the god in question to actually exist, just a shared belief in one.

Many prayers are not for aid or intercession either, but rather are for giving thanks, or simply praising/worshiping the deity in question. There is certainly a difference between knowing that somebody is grateful regardless of whether they show it, and being thanked personally, and a difference between knowing you are admired and actually being complimented on your good qualities.

There are definite benefits to prayer even if it is assumed that God doesn't exist. If a god did exist, those benefits wouldn't be negated, they would simply be added to.

Side: That's my guess.
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Prayers is not a way of God making us beg. It's a part of our relationship with God and to be able to talk to Him. It's also showing that we are obedient to God when we pray and it's an act of faith when we pray. If I stopped praying then I would basically have a lack of faith in God, and a lack of trust in God's Word.

Side: Wait..., what? No!!!