Return to CreateDebate.comjaded • Join this debate community

Joe_Cavalry All Day Every Day


Debate Info

13
21
Yes No
Debate Score:34
Arguments:31
Total Votes:34
More Stats

Argument Ratio

side graph
 
 Yes (13)
 
 No (18)

Debate Creator

QuestionMan(604) pic



Is the Harm Christianity Does Overhyped?

Yes

Side Score: 13
VS.

No

Side Score: 21

I hear people talking about Westboro Baptist Church and such things and claim it applies to almost all Christians it seems like. I also hear about how there is a mass persecution of Atheists by Christians when I live at the edge of the bible belt or so and Atheists are never bullied where I live at the school I go to. I actually think one of the Atheists at my school is pretty popular and almost doesn't effect your reputation. In my honest opinion it is just hype.

Side: Yes
Cartman(18192) Disputed
2 points

You know what sounds overhyped? A war on Christmas. You know what sounds overhyped? Christians complaining about persecution. I think the hype on Christians is accurate.

Side: No
QuestionMan(604) Disputed
1 point

You know what sounds overhyped? A war on Christmas. You know what sounds overhyped? Christians complaining about persecution. I think the hype on Christians is accurate.

By a War on Christmas to my knowledge just means that people don't say Christmas anymore a lot in some places. Is it overhyped? Yes.....

How are Christians complaining about persecution hype?

So the people who are being killed for being Christians in North Korea hype? Or do you mean Iraq?

Side: Yes
zephyr20x6(2387) Disputed
1 point

I hear people talking about Westboro Baptist Church and such things and claim it applies to almost all Christians it seems like. I also hear about how there is a mass persecution of Atheists by Christians when I live at the edge of the bible belt or so and Atheists are never bullied where I live at the school I go to. I actually think one of the Atheists at my school is pretty popular and almost doesn't effect your reputation. In my honest opinion it is just hype.

That is not why anti-theists think Christianity is harmful, it is not because they think all christians (or muslims, or jews, or buddhists, or etc) are the sames, it is because religion tries to claim to be the origin of morality, thus religion has a huge effect on morality because of such. Nobody ever tries to do immoral things to do immoral things, or because they are immoral things, people do however, do moral things, because they are moral things. You will never hear someone say "I did X, because it was the wrong thing to do" but you will hear people say "I did X, because it was the right thing to do". When one bases their morality on religion, they don't have to consider things like "what minimizes harm and maximizes well-being" in order to feel as though they are morally justified. However without religion, in order to feel right about what you are doing, you usually do need to use such considerations to justify yourself to being moral to yourself. The problem with religion (not just christianity) is when morality is based upon simply, what god approves of and dissaproves of, it can be used as kind of a free for all, or for whatever moral stance you want to take, because what god approves of or disapproves of can't be verified so, it is what has been taught to them via ancient texts, or they use that argument to hide their bigotry behind it. Of course you can use "what minimizes pain and maximizes well being" along with "what god approves of or disapproves of" but the second premise their doesn't at all help you morally, it was the former premise that lead you to a moral stance that leads to less harm. You have things like the crusades, preaching to other countries that condoms are wrong thus contributing the spreading of aids, fighting evolution in school, not allowing homosexuals to marry, etc. Harm of Christianity (or any religion for that matter) isn't overhyped, if anything underhyped because people are sensitive about their beliefs.

We find religion to be superstitious so when it effects morality across the globe... that's scary. Think of it this way, if majority of the world population believed that the way people should conduct themselves in society should be based upon bigfoot, or what bigfoot agrees or disagrees with... you'd find that disturbing wouldn't you?

Atheists are effected by it, I don't know of any atheists that got bullied in school for being an atheist, but we do get the bad end of the schtick around here in society.

We are one of the most distrusted minorities in America.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/in-atheists-we-distrust/

Some christian parents kick their kids out for being atheist

http://kidswithoutgod.com/teens/ask/what-do-i-do-when-ive-been-kicked-out-of-the-house-for-being-an-atheist/

a few states prohibit atheists from holding public office, and the ones that do... well come on, you don't see many atheists in politics, and we all know that it would be a BIG deal if we ever had an atheist for a president, after having a christian or catholic president for the millionth time in a row.

Side: No
QuestionMan(604) Disputed
1 point

The problem with religion (not just christianity) is when morality is based upon simply, what god approves of and dissaproves of, it can be used as kind of a free for all, or for whatever moral stance you want to take

So not believing in any God can be used for it? The USSR wasn't very moral for their State Atheism?

You have things like the crusades,

Funded by Kings along with the Pope. Also you could blame the USSR for the same thing. My point is saying your doing it in the name of something doesn't mean you are. It is a double-edged sword as it could also be used against the USSR State Atheism murders of Religious persons.

preaching to other countries that condoms are wrong

Only Catholics mostly

thus contributing the spreading of aids,

Possibly

fighting evolution in school,

I believe in Theistic Evolution but I don't see why believing in Young Earth Creationism hurts kids as I was a Young Earth Creationist for a long time.

not allowing homosexuals to marry,

In the United States it sometimes hurts to marry.

etc. Harm of Christianity (or any religion for that matter) isn't overhyped, if anything underhyped because people are sensitive about their beliefs.

We find religion to be superstitious so when it effects morality across the globe... that's scary. Think of it this way, if majority of the world population believed that the way people should conduct themselves in society should be based upon bigfoot, or what bigfoot agrees or disagrees with... you'd find that disturbing wouldn't you?

Even if God isn't real I don't see how it's harmful.

Your point about people being sensitive?

Side: Yes
1 point

There are whack-jobs on both sides but the numbers are minimal... unfortunately, because they're fucking nuts, people are naturally going to pay more attention to them than all the boring normal people.

Side: Yes
2 points

It's fucking disgusting, wipe it off the face of the Earth immediately...

One second, let me pray to Jesus that this happens soon.

Side: No

Millions have died because of it. It has suppressed the advancement of science, social progression and equality for centuries. The World would be a better place without it.

Side: No
1 point

But, it doesn't do that stuff any more. Doesn't that mean you are holding a grudge?

Side: No
1 point

It still holds back social progress today and still expresses hatred but in other way than violence. In many countries today homosexuality is still illegal and receives a severe punishment because of Christianity.

Side: No
1 point

Soooo.... I take it you've cancelled your subscription to the Christian Science Monitor?

Side: No
QuestionMan(604) Disputed
1 point

Soooo.... I take it you've cancelled your subscription to the Christian Science Monitor?

Christian Science is not Christian nor Science........

Side: Yes
QuestionMan(604) Disputed
1 point

The World would be a better place without it.

There would be a lot less soup kitchens and hospitals......

Side: Yes
1 point

Christianity (and most religions in general) have separated society. This has a lot to do with how Christians misinterpret the messages within the Bible. They believe the stuff that was added in there for political reasons, and ignore a lot of the more loving and unifying messages.

Side: No