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It is not counter intuitive for pro-lifers to support the death penalty.

Pro-lifers are for the death penalty. This may seem counter intuitive at first, but it really isn't. Pro-lifers would rather give ALL fetuses a chance at life to prove that they are not assholes and take away life from those that have already proven themselves to be assholes ;)

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Assholes shouldn't have any rights ;)

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AlofRI(3294) Clarified
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I agree, but, he, alas, DOES have the right to be President! Sad but true!

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I see what you did there ;)

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Or another justification is in order to make room in society for all these unwanted babies growing up we need to put a large number of adults to death to open up jobs and such.

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Intuition: the ability to understand something immediately, without the need for conscious reasoning.

The fact that you had to demonstrate conscious reasoning to prove your point shows that it is counter intuitive.

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Whether or not those who support the death penalty are pro-lifers, people do place different values on human life, so yes, someone who holds that position could still be in favor of capital punishment. This is more dependent on the individual than it is on general opinions. But, even regardless of perspective, since 1973 at least 144 men and women who were wrongly convicted have been released from death row, and even more than that are believed to have been innocent and not released, or wrongfully executed.

People against abortion maintain that they want to protect innocents, and though I won't argue directly against that, do the lives of these men and women who haven't committed a crime not matter? The fact that anyone who wasn't guilty was killed as a result of our justice system should be enough to make us question whether this is really the best way to go about punishing criminals, especially when life without parole and high security prisons exist. Whether or not the death penalty is justifiable is almost irrelevant when guiltless people have suffered because of it.

I'm sure someone of a different opinion could argue something similar against my perspective on abortion. That said, I think that people on each side of the debate want the best resolution for everyone involved, but just have different priorities. I place more weight on pregnant women with established lives having the choice to control their futures than I do on the rights of potential lives that aren't even viable outside of the womb yet. But in talking about innocent people charged with the death penalty and the human rights violations they're faced with, I'm pretty sure most can agree that it's something that needs to be addressed at the least.

- One source for statistics: http://www.newsweek.com/one-25-executed-us-innocent-study-claims-248889

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It is obvious the reasons for being prolife and also being pro death penalty.

The difference is that with abortion, an innocent life is being executed, whereby with mass murderers they are killing someone who might kill again in prison if allowed to do so.

It is obvious but of course with the radical pro abortion Democrat Party, their morals and priorities ARE ALL SCREWED UP!

We all can see how weak Democrats are towards criminals, illegal immigrants, illegal drug users, terrorists, dictators, etc etc. but when it comes to an innocent viable baby weeks from birth, they declare the DEATH PENALTY for those innocent babies for any reason at any stage.

It's so amazing how totally screwed up they are on who they show compassion. It's as if they are being led by Satan himself. You think? What else could explain it?

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