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True. Wait..., what? No!!!
Debate Score:75
Arguments:68
Total Votes:90
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Kavanough today - Roe vs Wade tomorrow ;)

True.

Side Score: 34
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Wait..., what? No!!!

Side Score: 41

Isn"t that what liberals are afraid is going to happen ;)

Side: True.
excon(18260) Disputed
1 point

Isn"t that what liberals are afraid is going to happen ;)

Hello joe:

Yes. Isn't that what right wingers want to happen?

excon

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outlaw60(15368) Disputed
1 point

STUPOR STUPID did the Washington Compost pass on that fear mongering to your 1 BRAIN CELL ?

Side: True.

I don't know what they want ;)

Side: Wait..., what? No!!!

If you're a liberal, you should be scared. You should be very scared ;)

Side: True.
excon(18260) Disputed
1 point

If you're a liberal, you should be scared. You should be very scared ;)

Hello joe:

It's true.. The table is set for the right wing to DESTROY 50 years of liberal thought.. Roe is toast.. Gay marriage is finished.. Caring for patients with pre-existing conditions is OVER... Universal health care isn't gonna happen.. People will DIE on the streets, and right wingers will say that's fine, because they're POOR and LAZY and not deserving of life.

But, we have hope.

excon

Side: Wait..., what? No!!!

Hope? That slogan is sooooo yesterday ;)

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FromWithin(8241) Disputed
2 points

The hypocritical fool speaks again. The nerve of fools on the Left lying about people dying in the streets while they support purposely killing viable babies for any reason.

You can not make this stuff up!

These hypocrite Democrats refuse to see their own inhumanity while judging others for far less.

Side: True.
marcusmoon(576) Disputed
2 points

Hello Excon.

Usually you do better than to parrot unsubstantiated or poorly supported talking points from politically biased folks on DNCNN or MSDNC.

Roe is toast.

In Kavanaugh's discussions of philosophy and method during the hearings, he explicitly stated he uses Constitutional text and precedent to guide his determination of constitutionality. That leaves Roe v Wade as settled law, and outside what he says is his purview of decision.

True, while campaigning, Trump said he would choose justices who would overturn, Roe v Wade, but he also said he would make the US government function efficiently. (Dream on!) Both the decisions of Constitutional conservatives and government waste are very far outside the ability of the executive to control, or even influence.

The advantage (particularly to whichever parties are out of power) of putting Constitutional conservatives on the bench is that they do not change things much. A politically conservative version of activist judges like Ginsberg or Soto-Mayor is what you should be worried about, but that is not Kavanaugh.

Gay marriage is finished.

Remember, the word conservative means something completely different when it follows the adverb Constitutionally than it does when following the words politically or socially. It is possible to be a political or social liberal, and still be a Constitutional conservative. In fact, any libertarian will tell you that Constitutional conservatism is the best way to protect social liberals. If the Constitution and precedent do not explicitly give government the right to intrude on citizens' private lives (sexual preference, drug use, etc.) then a Constitutionally conservative justice will uphold the freedom of the citizen.

Caring for patients with pre-existing conditions is OVER.

Not at all true. Preexisting conditions were already covered before Obamacare. That was one of the many things Obama and Congress (and poorly informed late night talk show hosts with sick kids) did not understand or lied about.

HIPAA already protected people from that on the group health insurance market (Company plans, association groups, etc..) Under HIPAA, so long as you have continuous coverage (no lapses in coverage of over 45 days) you could switch insurance companies (like when you change jobs, or lost a job and switched to COBRA), and preexisting conditions are covered. If your coverage lapses for over 45 days, you have to wait a single year before the condition is covered by the insurance company, but after that year, it is in fact covered.

All Congress had to do was extend HIPAA to the individual health insurance market, and if they wanted, extend dependent status to age 26.

Government-run "universal" health care is a foolish idea because GOVERNMENT IS BAD AT DOING EVERYTHING. We ALL do better if we limit what government does because that limits the number of things government will screw up. Conservatives are against universal health care because we do actually want people to have access to good health care. The minute government takes over, it will get even more expensive, and the quality will plummet for everybody.

Side: True.
OmegaPan(710) Disputed
1 point

Universal health care isn't gonna happen.. People will DIE on the streets, and right wingers will say that's fine, because they're POOR and LAZY and not deserving of life.

We already have universal healthcare for those who need it. What do you think the VA, the Indian hospitals, medicare and medicade fo exactly?

Are you happy we aren't fining people under the cruel ACA?

Side: True.
outlaw60(15368) Disputed
0 points

If you're a liberal, you should be scared. You should be very scared ;)

Hello joe:

It's true.. The table is set for the right wing to DESTROY 50 years of liberal thought.. Roe is toast.. Gay marriage is finished.. Caring for patients with pre-existing conditions is OVER... Universal health care isn't gonna happen.. People will DIE on the streets, and right wingers will say that's fine, because they're POOR and LAZY and not deserving of life.

But, we have hope.

excon

STUPOR STUPID pay close attention here to a key word because words matter in your very small world. Where is your "EVIDENCE" ?

Side: True.

One can only hope that a true honest Justice will read the Constitution where it says, we all have a right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness, and do his job!

You can't pick and choose which groups of innocent people have no right to life. The extreme Democrat Party tells us that even viable unborn babies have no rights.

This barbaric thinking is the beginnings of another Godless communistic dictatorship.

Side: True.
excon(18260) Disputed
0 points

Hello From:

Don't you worry. Roe v Wade is HISTORY.. Gay marriage is HISTORY. Immigration (except for white people) is HISTORY..

I mourn for my beloved country..

excon

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CrotchOfMao(64) Disputed
3 points

You don't understand what a conservative is Excon. You assume they are like Liberals. They aren't. Conservative means you don't go around changing and destroying everything, but protect what is there. Liberal means you are constantly changing things and destroying them with no concern with the aftermath.

The themes of each ideology can be summed up with one word for each.

Liberal = change

Conservative = patriotism

Side: True.
CrotchOfMao(64) Disputed
3 points

Presidential slogans

Gerald Ford

He’s Making us Proud Again

Ronald Reagan

It’s Morning Again in America

John McCain

Country First

Mitt Romney

Believe in America

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Jimmy Carter

A Leader For a Change

Walter Mondale

America Needs a Change

Barack Obama

Change We Can Believe In

Side: True.
Amarel(5669) Disputed
3 points

Mark this post in your memory as an example of your own soft hysteria.

Gay marriage isn’t going anywhere.

Border security is Constitutional and not anti-immigration.

Roe V Wade..yeah maybe that’s overturned since it has nothing at all to do with the Constitution. But that doesn’t mean abortion will be federally banned. They will remain just as available in California and just about equally unavailable in Georgia.

Side: True.
OmegaPan(710) Disputed
1 point

Immigration (except for white people) is HISTORY

Says someone who trashes the President for any alleged ties to those evil foreigners.

Side: True.
FromWithin(8241) Disputed
0 points

LOL, the deceptive fool speaks again. Keep spewing your scare tactics as all good Liberals do.

I HOPE THAT ROE V WADE IS HISTORY! Other than extreme cases, a compassionate tolerant nation should respect ALL INNOCENT LIFE!

To the deceptive fool, the Right has absolutely no interest in preventing legal immigration.

Marriage laws should be controlled by the States, not an activist court!

Wait a minute.... oh yeh.... FOOL!

IGNORE

Side: True.
outlaw60(15368) Disputed
0 points

Hello From:

Don't you worry. Roe v Wade is HISTORY.. Gay marriage is HISTORY. Immigration (except for white people) is HISTORY..

I mourn for my beloved country..

excon

STUPOR STUPID lets go through this again okay ! Pay close attention to the key word if you can. Where is the "EVIDENCE" of your FEAR MONGERING ? You scared little gurl Socialist !

Side: True.
AlofRI(3294) Clarified
-1 points

A "true, honest judge" … that LIED through his teeth UNDER OATH, will be reading the Constitution. You are correct AGAIN! "where it says, we ALL have a right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness"! THAT includes WOMEN not just "viable babies"! That includes the "Democrat party" AND the Republican Party, as extreme as it is! We ALL also have another "right"! The right to VOTE, WITHOUT it being gerrymandered to the advantage OF those "extreme" conservatives that have TAKEN OVER the Republican Party! THEY are truly "godless" (except when in public) AND leading U.S. toward a dictatorship, whatever political view you want to call it!

Side: True.
marcusmoon(576) Clarified
3 points

Hello, Al.

I think most of what you said is unfounded paranoia, BUT I very much agree with you on the essence of your most important point.

We ALL also have another "right"! The right to VOTE, WITHOUT it being gerrymandered...

I am with you in that I think gerrymandering is an abomination, and subverts representational government.

But you know damned well it is not just Republicans who gerrymander. I live in a district that was specifically gerrymandered to favor Democrats.

I am not sure that there is a sure-fire way to eliminate stacking the deck by the unscrupulous bastards that run both parties. However, I could make peace if the rule were that districts had to be rectangles

- Exactly 4 sides

- Exactly 4 ninety-degree corners

- - Except on state borders

- - - A single continuous and contiguous section of border would complete the district

- - - Without adding any extra sides or angles to connect to the border.

This would help representative government actually start to represent the citizens instead of the leadership of both parties.

Side: True.
CrotchOfMao(64) Disputed
3 points

The right to VOTE, WITHOUT it being gerrymandered to the advantage OF those "extreme" conservatives that have TAKEN OVER the Republican Party!

The Republican Party is further left than it has ever been.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/wonk/wp/2017/10/25/for-the-first-time-a-majority-of-republicans-support-marijuana-legalization/

https://www.google.com/amp/www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-pol-republicans-legal-marijuana-20180417-story.html?outputType=amp

THEY are truly "godless"

1)Wouldn't that make us the same as liberals?

2)Then why do Democrats complain about Conservtive stances on God?

You're playing both sides of the fence here.

AND leading U.S. toward a dictatorship, whatever political view you want to call it!

We just went through 8 years of a man spying on us, pandering to nations that shout "death to America", and being targeted by the IRS.

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CrotchOfMao(64) Disputed
2 points

A "true, honest judge" … that LIED through his teeth UNDER OATH

Citation needed.

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FromWithin(8241) Disputed
2 points

Alzheimer? LOL, still spewing pure deception about life of mother abortions? FOOL!

IGNORE!

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outlaw60(15368) Disputed
1 point

A "true, honest judge" … that LIED through his teeth UNDER OATH, will be reading the Constitution. You are correct AGAIN! "where it says, we ALL have a right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness"! THAT includes WOMEN not just "viable babies"! That includes the "Democrat party" AND the Republican Party, as extreme as it is! We ALL also have another "right"! The right to VOTE, WITHOUT it being gerrymandered to the advantage OF those "extreme" conservatives that have TAKEN OVER the Republican Party! THEY are truly "godless" (except when in public) AND leading U.S. toward a dictatorship, whatever political view you want to call it!

Does the nominee and now justice spark fear to your daily life Grandpaw ?

Grandpaw was Grandson just a "VIABLE BABY" ? The twisted confused thoughts of the mentally ill Left has been exposed and you Grandpaw run with that crowd !

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