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Debate Score:46
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Liberal whites are the greatest enemy of African Americans.

True.

Side Score: 22
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Wait..., what? No!!!

Side Score: 24

Decades ago, Malcolm X said it plainly

"The liberal elements of whites are those who have perfected the art of selling themselves to the Negro as a friend of the Negro. Getting sympathy of the Negro, getting the allegiance of the Negro, and getting the mind of the Negro. Then the Negro sides with the white liberal, and the white liberal use the Negro against the white conservative.

So that anything that the Negro does is never for his own good, never for his own advancement, never for his own progress, he’s only a pawn in the hands of the white liberal. The worst enemy that the Negro have is this white man that runs around here drooling at the mouth professing to love Negros, and calling himself a liberal, and it is following these white liberals that has perpetuated problems that Negros have. If the Negro wasn’t taken, tricked, or deceived by the white liberal then Negros would get together and solve our own problems."

http://phillys7thward.org/2017/07/dont-fooled-even-liberal-friends-will-try-suppress-education-black-children/

Side: True.
2 points

This is also from the exact same passage, but for some reason you completely ignored it bronto:-

The white conservatives aren't friends of the Negro either, but they at least don't try to hide it. They are like wolves; they show their teeth in a snarl that keeps the Negro always aware of where he stands with them.

https://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/ 17435.Malcolm_X?page=10

Side: Wait..., what? No!!!
2 points

The white conservatives aren't friends of the Negro either, but they at least don't try to hide it

So your argument is you are proud that you are "hiding" your racism and plantation politics?

(Bronto pats Nom on the head and walks away...)

Side: True.
The0bserver(141) Disputed
1 point

In case you both are retarded let me just point out that BOTH THE LIBERALS AND CONSERVATIVES ARE NOT "FRIENDS OF THE NEGRO" NOR ARE THEY FRIENDS OF HUMANITY

IN MY DIMENSION WE DO NOT PRACTICE "POLITICS" WHICH IS MERELY A METAPHOR FOR SLAVERY.

Side: True.
1 point

BLM calls liberals Nazis-

Black Lives Matter claims Liberalism is White Supremacy-

http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/10/05/liberalism-is-white-supremacy-black-lives-matter-actually-shuts-down-aclu-free-speech-event

What did the sign-toting protesters chant?

“Liberalism is white supremacy!”

“ACLU, you protect Hitler, too!”

“No justice, no peace — Nazis don’t deserve free speech!”

“Your free speech hides beneath white sheets!”

“Blood on your hands!”

“Shame!”

“The revolution will not uphold the Constitution!”

http://reason.com/blog/2017/10/04/black-lives-matter-students-shut-down-th

https://www.dailywire.com/news/21985/black-lives-matter-shuts-down-campus-aclu-event-emily-zanotti

https://pjmedia.com/trending/2017/10/04/ blm-shuts-aclu-free-speech-rally-liberalism-white-supremacy/

https://www.trunews.com/article/blm-liberalism-is-white-supremacy

https://www.libertarianinstitute.org/articles/blm-shuts-aclus-free-speech-event-liberalism-white-supremacy/

Side: True.
1 point

So says James Meredith ;)

Side: True.

It's true. If not for liberal policies, the African American community as a whole would have been forced to keep up and would be caught up by now and better integrated into society.

Side: True.
Polaris95(236) Disputed
2 points

Liberal policies are giving them equal rights, not conservatives.

Side: Wait..., what? No!!!
1 point

Not according to James Meredith ;)

Side: Wait..., what? No!!!
1 point

This for all you Progressives out there that have no clue of history !

Lyndon Johnson was a civil rights hero. But also a racist.

Lyndon Johnson said the word “nigger” a lot.

In Senate cloakrooms and staff meetings, Johnson was practically a connoisseur of the word. According to Johnson biographer Robert Caro, Johnson would calibrate his pronunciations by region, using “nigra” with some southern legislators and “negra” with others. Discussing civil rights legislation with men like Mississippi Democrat James Eastland, who committed most of his life to defending white supremacy, he’d simply call it “the nigger bill.”

It's all in the link from of all places MSLSD.

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/lyndon-johnson-civil-rights-racism

Side: True.
5 points

I wonder do African Americans ever stop whining their biggest enemy is their self pitying attitude and sulking poor me attitude

Side: Wait..., what? No!!!
1 point

I wonder do African Americans ever stop whining their biggest enemy is their self pitying attitude and sulking poor me attitude

You know the last President of the United States was an African American, right?

Side: True.
Dermot(5200) Clarified
5 points

Yes I do ; nearly every day one hears yet another account from the U S about how unfairly blacks are treated and the accounts always come from some group with a vested interest in constantly pushing this agenda ; any attempted debate on the topic leaves one open to the lame knee jerk reaction of being branded a racist

Recently I watched a very intersting documentary which clearly showed that worldwide universities and colleges are the ones who push the whole over the top P C bullshit which discourages debate of any sort on these controversial topics , it’s the new form of censorship of which I will not be a part off

Side: True.
3 points

The African Bongo is the greatest enemy of the African Bongo.

Everyone is obsessed with how and why the poor lil ol' Bongos are downtrodden by the big bad whites when all the while it is their own congenital characteristics which makes them their own worst enemy.

In the main whites are sick of listening about;- black power, black lives matter, equality for blacks.

Legislation was passed many years ago in an earnest attempt to ensure that blacks enjoy equal opportunities as all the other ethnic groups, but still they bellyache about discrimination and not being accepted by the rest of American society.

So, everyone dislikes the poor Bongo, I wonder how and why that can be.

Can the Bongos not begin to look at their own failings and shortcomings and try to adapt, and adopt to the customs and practices of the society in which they're competing?

The onus is on the Bongo to apply themselves to the disciplines of formal education, work hard at turning their back on violent crime and show some original entrepreneurial enterprise.

Where are the Bongo 'job creating' corporations, financial institutions?

Why do Bongos turn once prosperous cities like Detroit and Chicago into African type third world hell holes which most whites wouldn't touch with a barge pole?

An infestation of blacks will invariably result in 'white flight' which will inevitably lead to poverty.

As blacks are incapable of generating their own wealth creating commercial/industrial base they stay poverty stricken and blame their own laziness and mental interitia on the whites.

How the Bongo and the liberals love to shout RACIST at those who point out the self evident truths about the Bongo's inability to compete successfully in a white dominated society.

Side: Wait..., what? No!!!
WinstonC(1116) Disputed
1 point

"all the while it is their own congenital characteristics which makes them their own worst enemy."

Do you have any evidence for this?

"Legislation was passed many years ago in an earnest attempt to ensure that blacks enjoy equal opportunities as all the other ethnic groups"

I agree, people that think blacks are second-class citizens do not live in reality.

Side: True.
1 point

Hello bront:

Wait?.. Are you saying that BIGOTS on the right AREN'T the true enemy of black people??? DUDE! I guess you don't read the posts from right wing RACISTS on this very website.. I dunno HOW you miss that.. Maybe it's on purpose..

Look.. I understand your world is falling apart.. But, your leaders are in charge of EVERYTHING.. If things are fucked, that's where you should look.. Say what you will, but the world KNOWS who's on the side of black people, and who tries to thwart them at every turn.

excon

Side: Wait..., what? No!!!
outlaw60(11915) Disputed
2 points

This for all you Progressives out there that have no clue of history !

Lyndon Johnson was a civil rights hero. But also a racist.

Lyndon Johnson said the word “nigger” a lot.

In Senate cloakrooms and staff meetings, Johnson was practically a connoisseur of the word. According to Johnson biographer Robert Caro, Johnson would calibrate his pronunciations by region, using “nigra” with some southern legislators and “negra” with others. Discussing civil rights legislation with men like Mississippi Democrat James Eastland, who committed most of his life to defending white supremacy, he’d simply call it “the nigger bill.”

It's all in the link from of all places MSLSD.

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/lyndon-johnson-civil-rights-racism

Bigots like you Progressives like the Negros on the Urban Plantations there Super Stupid ! Racist is owned by the party of your choice Dummy !

History of your party is what you Idiots avoid !

Side: True.
TzarPepe(795) Disputed
1 point

The only thing leftist rhetoric does is make black people more racist against white people, and white people more unintentionally racist towards black people.

Not all people with black skin fall for all the leftist illuminati take over the world bullshit. Racists on the left think to themselves that blacks are inferior, and require special treatment. They do everything they can to strip the black man of dignity.

The best thing so called "white liberals" can do for blacks is to stop treating them differently for being black. It would also be nice if they would stop trying to divide us all up.

We're one people. Stop trying to get there, and live it.

Side: True.
1 point

@excon

the world knows who's on the side of black people

It sure does...

BLM calls liberals Nazis-

Black Lives Matter claims Liberalism is White Supremacy-

http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/10/05/liberalism-is-white-supremacy-black-lives-matter-actually-shuts-down-aclu-free-speech-event

What did the sign-toting protesters chant?

“Liberalism is white supremacy!”

“ACLU, you protect Hitler, too!”

“No justice, no peace — Nazis don’t deserve free speech!”

“Your free speech hides beneath white sheets!”

“Blood on your hands!”

“Shame!”

“The revolution will not uphold the Constitution!”

http://reason.com/blog/2017/10/04/black-lives-matter-students-shut-down-th

https://www.dailywire.com/news/21985/black-lives-matter-shuts-down-campus-aclu-event-emily-zanotti

https://pjmedia.com/trending/2017/10/04/ blm-shuts-aclu-free-speech-rally-liberalism-white-supremacy/

https://www.trunews.com/article/blm-liberalism-is-white-supremacy

https://www.libertarianinstitute.org/articles/blm-shuts-aclus-free-speech-event-liberalism-white-supremacy/

Side: True.
1 point

Look.. I understand your world is falling apart

Not really. I sold off a bunch of stocks and nearly trippled my money. I'm good.

Side: True.
1 point

Actually, they're the ones who want racial equality, so.......... no. Most racists are conservatives, who want to go back to a time of discrimination and slavery against Blacks.

Side: Wait..., what? No!!!
TzarPepe(795) Disputed
1 point

White liberals don't believe in racial equality, they believe that blacks are inferior and need special treatment.

I hang around conservatives and liberals. I live in Austin Texas, the blueberry floating in a bowl of tomato soup. I've spend a great deal of time around the University of Texas.

Lefties make all the racist jokes. Lefties are the ones who treat black people different. Conservatives are less racist on the whole, and this is my experience.

I think to believe otherwise is to by into democrip propaganda or something, because damn near everything they have to say about race is obviously racist, and I'm not the only one to notice.

Lefties think requiring an ID to vote is discrimination against black people. Why do they think this?

Because they think black people are stupid, and they are racist. How else do you explain such a preposterous claim? Why don't you go up to the next 23 blacks you meet and ask them if they have identification? Do some science or something.

Who is really preoccupied with race? The left in America. Why? Because they are actually the ones who are racist.

Who started the KKK? Which party has always voted against black people in the past? Democrats are liars and crooks. All you have to do is go to any place that is run by them, and it is hard to tell the difference between that and a place run BY THE MOB.

No, most conservatives are Christian, and racism is incompatible with Christianity.

Side: True.
1 point

Most racists are conservatives, who want to go back to a time of discrimination and slavery against Blacks.

The Republicans freed the slaves from the Democrats. They're stilltrying to do it to this day.

The Democrats should know Jim Crow. They created him...

Malcolm X wasn't concerned about Conservatives. He was concerned about white liberals.

The terms "uncle tom" and "race traitor" were created by...the left.

The Democrats elected Robert Byrd, a klansman from 1953 all the way up to 2010 when he died. Hillary Clinton referred to him as "her mentor"...

Side: True.
1 point

I don't think so at all. The greatest enemy is lack of motivation or desire to better oneself in complacency.

Side: Wait..., what? No!!!
1 point

I'm a liberal (by necessity, given the other choice, today), and white also, and I'm not an enemy of ANY other race that wants to have equality and get ahead. We narrowly missed having ANOTHER conservative "enemy of African Americans" (and young women) in the U.S. Senate, along with the "majority" of others.

I don't care what ONE African American says. You shouldn't either. I think many of them will show their REAL feelings next year. We can talk more about who is their enemy, then.

Side: Wait..., what? No!!!