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True. Wait..., what? No!!!!
Debate Score:23
Arguments:24
Total Votes:23
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1 point

Finally you provide a reasonable argument against gun control. You were being as bad as FromWithin and Outlaw.

Side: True.
outlaw60(15500) Disputed
1 point

Well MOONBEAM your Progressives Buddies don't like the Second Amendment and this comes from the "Land of Fruits and Nuts" where you exist. Are you ready MOONBEAM for a "Little Truth" from your Cali Buddies ?

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/why-its-time-to-repeal-the-second-amendment-right-bear-arms-20160613?page=2

Side: Wait..., what? No!!!!
Cartman(18191) Disputed
1 point

I don't understand what proving me right about you being terrible at making arguments was supposed to get you. Can you explain why you decided to make sure I was right about you?

Side: True.

And only a fraction of those were done by Muslims, therefore America does not have a Muslim problem, right?

Side: True.
outlaw60(15500) Disputed
1 point

Who committed the 2nd Worst Mass Shooting in the U.S. there Progressive ?

Side: Wait..., what? No!!!!
JustIgnoreMe(4334) Clarified
1 point

According to you - the US Army - so, what's your point?

Side: True.
1 point

A reasonable argument, it does a good job in showing how insignificant gun deaths are as compared to the entire U.S. population. However, this doesn't mean gun crimes are not a problem, just that guns are not a danger to the U.S.

Side: True.
1 point

Finally, someone is talking sense. Please fucking libtards, please refute this. Unless this is false, you can't. We don't have a gun problem.

Side: True.

You haven't disputed that there is 32,000 gun deaths per year. 63% are suicides and accidents. That's still a huge problem! If you have background checking, safety training, and proper gun storage then that number drops. 10,000 homicides. And just because most are gang related that excuses it? You haven't disputed that there's a gun problem you just spread out the statistics to state that mass shootings are not a problem by comparison to the rest of the statistics. You also just ignore accidents and suicides as if they're not part of the problem? 32,000 is still the most important figure. 32,000 a year in the US compared to a world average that is MUCH lower.

Americans are 10 times more likely to be killed by guns than people in other developed countries, a new study finds.

Compared to 22 other high-income nations, the United States' gun-related murder rate is 25 times higher. And, even though the United States' suicide rate is similar to other countries, the nation's gun-related suicide rate is eight times higher than other high-income countries, researchers said.

The study was published online Feb. 1 in The American Journal of Medicine.

-CBS

You're just putting stats in contexts that make it appear like they're negligible. Yes 32,000 in a nation of 300 million doesn't look bad. But you have to compare that to the rest of the world to see where we stand. And youd think right off the bat seeing 357 million guns to 312 million people would be a red flag to you.

Side: Wait..., what? No!!!!
outlaw60(15500) Disputed
1 point

When is it you Progressives have ever addressed the gun violence in Chicago ? Come on Progressive tell me when Obama , Jackson , Sharpton , Pelosi , Reid or Black Lives Matter have addressed it !

Side: True.
outlaw60(15500) Disputed
1 point

What is gun confiscation going to do to control guns in the hands of criminals you IDIOT PROGRESSIVE ? What you Progressives are all about is disarming the law abiding citizen but never addressing the guns in the hands of criminals ! Just the "CLASSIC PROGRESSIVE SPIN"

Side: True.
AveSatanas(4425) Disputed
1 point

Nobody is proposing gun confiscation. Once again, you made that up. However if someone commits a crime and they already have a gun then that gun will be confiscated. So that criminal no longer has a gun.

How are we disarming the law abiding citizen? Not one piece of legislation that has been proposed involves removing guns from people who already own them. All were talking about is gun purchases moving forward. Nobody has suggested confiscating guns from law abiding citizens, once again, you made that up.

Theres no progressive spin. I can literally go get you the bill that is being proposed and you can read the law that theyre voting on. It says nothing about gun confiscation. None. So what this is is YOU taking gun laws and spinning it to seem like were taking away guns when nobody actually said that

Side: Wait..., what? No!!!!
1 point

I don't understand the problem. there are 319 million people in the U.S.

32,000 is a drop in the bucket.

Is your goal to increase the population? If so, the number of abortions per year is approximately 42 million. Do you want to make abortion illegal?

http://www.abortionno.org/abortion-facts/

Supporting Evidence: http://www.abortionno.org/abortion-facts/ (www.abortionno.org)
Side: Wait..., what? No!!!!
Cartman(18191) Disputed
1 point

You are just pushing stats to make them appear bad. 10 times a tiny number is still a tiny number. The suicide rate is basically the same as other countries, but because it is done with a gun some fake significance is drawn to it.

Side: True.
AveSatanas(4425) Disputed
1 point

Because its done with a gun thats fake significance? How exactly is it not significant? People who are suicidal have easy access to the 100% sure way to kill themselves and that shows in that statistic. That is a problem. It is one part of the entire large problem of gun violence in america. Gun accidents, suicides, mass shootings, homicides, theyre all part of the collective problem.

Side: Wait..., what? No!!!!