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True. Wait..., what? No!!!
Debate Score:41
Arguments:35
Total Votes:47
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Stupid liberal logic.

According to liberals, the cops and the military are racist.  But only cops and the military should have guns so that they can protect us.  Law abiding citizens are not to be trusted with guns.  The government is to be trusted to protect our rights, but Trump and his administration are Nazis.

True.

Side Score: 25
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Wait..., what? No!!!

Side Score: 16
3 points

Liberals get a liberal arts degree and they think they are educated ;)

Side: True.
2 points

110% agree with you. Although this is America and we can learn and believe whatever we want, there is a line for stupidity that many young misinformed teens have crossed.

Side: True.
Eloy(195) Disputed
1 point

I believe you are mistaken to criticize a college education in the liberal arts. Education can be a foundation for a successful life.

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1 point

A STEM degree is the foundation for a successful life. A liberals arts degree.... not so much ;)

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3 points

I'll agree on this one. If you think the system is out to kill you then you shouldn't trust it.

Now let's apply your lesson.

If you think minorities and liberals are dangerous degenerates then you should not keep fighting for an unlimited right for them to arm themselves.

Side: True.
2 points

We are all going to need guns for when the shooting starts ;)

Side: True.
Grenache(5145) Clarified
1 point

That's charming. Your answer to revolution or anarchy is to treat it like a duel. "Poors, minorities, liberal scum - choose your weapon. Then take 10 steps and turn and fire."

Side: True.

It's true. They tell us how dispicable the system is, all while trying to give the system full social control. The cops are bad, but we should only have the evil cops armed... the government is "tyrannical", but should have full control of healthcare and control to tell us what we can and cannot say like Nazi priests. No one understands the logic. Hardly anyone even attempts to defend the logic, but mark it down, liberals will wink and nod at each other as they try to implement said logic nonetheless...

Side: True.
Eloy(195) Disputed
1 point

I am sure you are mistaken to characterize the Liberal position is to provide guns only to "evil cops". I cannot speak for all Liberals but I believe it would be more accurate to say that they believe cops who are evil, racist bigots, should be weeded out of police forces.

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1 point

Evil, racist bigots lives matter, you evil, racist bigot ;)

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Chinaman(307) Disputed
1 point

Evil racist bigoted cops your characterization is mistaken and not accurate.

Side: True.
1 point

If much of the police force is racist towards minorities, and I'm a minority, you can imagine why I think disarming me, while leaving them armed is a real nitwitted idea. I'm not a liberal because it makes no damn sense... ever...

Side: True.
1 point

They consistently bring up disproved arguments and are almost always never open to debate there stance do to lack of supporting evidence.Most of there there arguments are your a nazi or your white or your a man. There attempt of ending racism creates more the have no common sense there parents should have beat them more in my opinion so they wouldn't be pussies

Side: True.
Eloy(195) Disputed
1 point

Since this debate has confused 'logic' with being consistent, I do not mind seeming a little off-topic when I say that beating children is barbaric.

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Chinaman(307) Disputed
1 point

Logic is confusing for you. Dialing 911 is barbaric.No need for the evil gun totters.

Side: True.
1 point

Yeah, Liberals - at least the publicly revealed ones - have very unstable logic.

Side: True.
Eloy(195) Disputed
1 point

Mister Spock would say that it is illogical to speak of "unstable logic". Sorry.

Side: Wait..., what? No!!!
1 point

The guy from Star Trek? He did have impeccable logic ;)

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Chinaman(307) Disputed
1 point

"Unstable Logic" is all the Democrats have at this time. Makes the Democrats losers at the polls.

Side: True.
3 points

Hello j:

What you got here is stupid right wingers thinking they understand left wingers..

excon

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oofman(5) Disputed
1 point

Hello I am very far left, like farrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. (Pretty much a communist) But liberal logic is incredibly stupid

Side: True.

Depends how you're defining liberal. Is it a classical liberal merely concerned with toleration and equal rights? Or is it a policy focused liberal like bernie sanders? Or is it a "liberal" who is really just an SJW with no political savvy whatsoever who calls themselves a liberal for no reason?

i suspect youre talking about the 3rd option.

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1 point

You're still here? I haven't seen you in ages. BTW, this is joe_cavalry, in case you have forgotten my smiley ;)

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AveSatanas(4174) Clarified
1 point

Yup i still roll by from time to time to rant at the goons who still prowl these pages. Good to see youre still up to your old tricks

Side: True.
Eloy(195) Clarified
1 point

You are correct; the shorthand of Liberal/Conservative can be confusing and the terms mean different things to different people. I find it best to clarify the debate using my own mind and then stick with that unless my mind is changed by the argument. It is similar to Left/Right. We all probably have a good idea which is which once we see it.

As for the Opening Post, I cannot see it as I write and I forget the examples. There was something about Liberals in favor of gun reform whereby civilians could not legally own firearms and allow only the police to be armed (and the military of course) but Liberals are also supposed to be critical of the police while Conservatives always support the police. The question is not one of 'logic' but of consistency. How consistent is it to criticize armed police and to propose that only the police be armed? The response to this is that a well-trained police, free of racist bigotry could be armed but wherever the police do wrong they should be criticized and prosecuted.

Side: True.
2 points

I'm not sure there's a fool proof test for racism and bigotry. So..., maybe keep the civilian population well armed.

As far as what constitutes a liberal idea... that is any idea I disagree with ;)

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