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Proper treatment of humans Apple iWatch.
Debate Score:14
Arguments:18
Total Votes:14
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 Proper treatment of humans (6)
 
 Apple iWatch. (6)

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Which do you care more about - the proper treatment of human beings or an Apple iWatch?

 

Slavery lasted as long as it did because people wanted cheap cotton.  Problem here is that Apple products ain't cheap.

Maybe Apple can't afford to pay its workers more.  Oh, wait:  

iPhone 6 Made Apple More Money This Quarter Than Any Public Company In History!

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/01/28/apple-iphone-6-sales-quarterly-profit-q1-2015_n_6560716.html

 

Proper treatment of humans

Side Score: 7
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Apple iWatch.

Side Score: 7
2 points

This OP breaks at least (4) of the Ten Commandments of Rational Debate

3. Though shall not use small numbers to represent the whole. (“Hasty Generalization”) One of the three had not yet started working at foxconn, where thousands are employed.

5. Though shall not claim that because something occurred before, but must be the cause. (“Post Hoc/False Cause”). Three People died, but no cause was given

6. Though shall not reduce the argument down to only two possibilities when there is a clear middle ground. (“False Dichotomy”) Slavery or iWatch. Hmmmm

9. Though shall not assume that “this” follows “that”, when “it” has no logical connection. (“Non Sequitur”). There is in fact no evidence of a connection between the iWatch and anyone dying.

Shame on you.

Side: Proper treatment of humans
1 point

Wow! You actually put more time into your argument than I did into the entire debate.

Side: Proper treatment of humans
daver(1771) Clarified
2 points

Then of course theres FromWithin who can break all Ten in one sentence,

Side: Proper treatment of humans
daver(1771) Clarified
0 points

I knoooooooooooow. :-)

Seriously I think those Ten Commandments were potentially very useful in debating Liberal Progressives and other idiots.

Side: Proper treatment of humans
1 point

Chinese Apple Laborers Jump To Their Deaths.

Save the Chinese Apple Laborers!!!

Side: Proper treatment of humans
1 point

Who wants an 18-karat gold watch that, to quote one of the company's patents, uses "as little gold as possible."

Side: Proper treatment of humans
1 point

My Apple watch is worth more to me than the entire population of whatever country in which they're made. The Apple argument section is not ''receiving calls today''.

Side: Proper treatment of humans
2 points

Apple watch, apple watch, apple watch, apple watch apple watch, apple watch,

Side: Apple iWatch.
1 point

If we were going to pass a law that said you cannot import goods that were created by laborers in "insert arbitrary labor concern boundary" then we would actually be combatting bad working conditions.

I'm posting in support of the iWatch because trying to act like not buying one item, or from one company, or making company watch lists we don't patronize, has anything to do with not condoning slavery as a nation, is like pitting citizens against the government. Slavery isn't fought by fining companies or not patronizing them, and iWatches aren't the main problem and saying they are is sensationalizing one story to avoid addressing solutions for the main problem.

Side: Apple iWatch.
1 point

Hey man, the answer to that question is too easy. My Apple watch is more important to me than the entire population of whatever country in which they are made, providing that it's not the good old U.S.A., nor any other Western country. The governments and people of such nations have a choice, either go back to their former happy go lucky donkey and cart economies or produce the high tech goods developed by western scientists. The manufactured goods and farm produce of countries which exploit child labour as well as using virtual adult slave workers are bought with conscienceless abandon and gusto by hypocritical westerners throughout Europe and America. Let he/she who has never shopped at Walmart or bought ''designer'' fashion/sports wear made in ''Wing Wa Woo'' throw the first stone.

Side: Apple iWatch.
1 point

Hey man, the answer to that question is too easy. My Apple watch is more important to me than the entire population of whatever country in which they are made, providing that it's not the good old U.S.A., nor any other Western country. The governments and people of such nations have a choice, either go back to their former happy go lucky donkey and cart economies or produce the high tech goods developed by western scientists. The manufactured goods and farm produce of countries which exploit child labour as well as using virtual adult slave workers are bought with conscienceless abandon and gusto by hypocritical westerners throughout Europe and America. Let he/she who has never shopped at Walmart or bought ''designer'' fashion/sports wear made in ''Wing Wa Woo'' throw the first stone.

Side: Apple iWatch.
1 point

Hey man, the answer to that question is too easy. My Apple watch is more important to me than the entire population of whatever country in which they are made, providing that it's not the good old U.S.A., nor any other Western country. The governments and people of such nations have a choice, either go back to their former happy go lucky donkey and cart economies or produce the high tech goods developed by western scientists. The manufactured goods and farm produce of countries which exploit child labour as well as using virtual adult slave workers are bought with conscienceless abandon and gusto by hypocritical westerners throughout Europe and America. Let he/she who has never shopped at Walmart or bought ''designer'' fashion/sports wear made in ''Wing Wa Woo'' throw the first stone.

Side: Apple iWatch.
1 point

My Apple watch is of considerable value to me than the entire population of the country in which they are made.

Side: Apple iWatch.