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libs have a choice to make - Either march in protest for more liberalism or do brunch
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I say let them protest and I'll do brunch Did you hear the news about Georgia? Electors have voted along partisan lines not to confirm the vote count. This is getting absolutely ridiculous. Surely you must understand that Trump is attacking the literal foundation of democracy here. He has no evidence of any type of impropriety. He's just grasping at straws any way he can to retain power. Kind of puts your sniggering at the idea he might be a fascist into perspective. Side: Wait..., what? No!
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Sounds like both sides are to blame ;) It sounds like you are an idiot, Joe. The only valid reason to refuse to confirm the vote count is evidence of widespread impropriety and it has already been well established that there isn't any. I suppose you also blame both sides for not impeaching Donald Trump when he tried to blackmail the Ukrainian president. Side: True.
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Electors have voted along partisan lines not to confirm the vote count. That sentence implies that the Dems voted one way and the Conservatives voted another. It also implies that the fact they voted along partisan lines is the reason we do not have a resolution. Therefore, they are both at fault for not coming to a resolution. If the Dems would only go along with the Conservatives, then we would have a resolution ;) As far as the impeachment..., there was a resolution. The Dems impeached him because they had the votes. They succeeded. Trump was impeached. The conservatives were not able to prevent the impeachment. Now..., if you are referring to the impeachment trial... that is an entirely different matter but it too had a resolution. The conservatives voted not to put Trump on trial. They had the votes and they succeeded. Trump did not go to trial. The Dems were not able to force the trail to take place. So..., with regards to the impeachment and the trial, I do not blame both sides. I blame the Dems for wasting tax payer dollars because they knew the conservatives had the votes and they were not going to put Trump on trial. That's money down the drain. As far as Trump blackmailing the Ukrainian president..., we have to wait for the trial to see if he's found guilty. Until that happens, Trump is trapped in a penny. ;) Side: True.
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BTW, if Trump had won the election, Biden would have contested it. Especially if the race was this close. And even though it is costing a lot of money, since it is this close, it would have been prudent for the losing side to contest it. The reason that we have to go through this process is that after the recounts and the courts throw out the cases, etc., it is hoped that the American public's faith in the system is restored. It is imperative that the American public's faith in the system is restored. That last thing we want is a civil war. A civil war would destroy the entire world's economy and security. It would also be very bloody here in America because Americans are very good at kicking ass ;) Side: True.
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BTW, if Trump had won the election, Biden would have contested it. Joe, you're just such an idiot bro. Trump has zero evidence of impropriety and is proving himself to be exactly the authoritarian fascist everybody suggested he was, but instead of calling him out or even distancing yourself from him, instead you are here inventing a fantasy alternative reality where Biden is the one doing what Trump is actually doing. You're a retard, Joe. Nobody is interested in your personal fantasies about what Biden would have done. They are interested in what is actually happening. Side: True.
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That sentence implies that the Dems voted one way and the Conservatives voted another. No, it wasn't an implication. It was a statement of fact. That's what happened. It also implies that the fact they voted along partisan lines is the reason we do not have a resolution. Either there is evidence of widespread impropriety or there isn't. Whichever party members voted contrary to that principle are the ones making a mockery of democracy. If the Dems would only go along with the Conservatives, then we would have a resolution So you want the Dems to pretend there is evidence of widespread voter fraud, even though there isn't, so that the Republicans can dismantle the foundations of democracy and keep their autocratic leader in the White House? That is the level of idiotic comment I have come to expect from you Joe. Side: Wait..., what? No!
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So you want the Dems to pretend there is evidence of widespread voter fraud You can't have it both ways. We either go through the process and verify that that there was no evidence of voter fraud or someone has to pretend. As the saying goes, Trust, but Verify. What do you want the government to do? Do you expect them to say, "Well..., this BurritoLunch guy in Great Britain said, 'there is NO evidence of widespread voter fraud' so we are going to take his word for it even though the race was very close." I mean, you just don't have any clout across the pond, mate ;) Side: Wait..., what? No!
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You can't have it both ways. I have no idea what you are even talking about you complete idiot. We either go through the process and verify that that there was no evidence of voter fraud That isn't how "the process" works. The burden of proof is on a claimant to prove their allegations. That is the entire basis for the US justice system you fucking retard. Otherwise, people like Trump can say anything they want and demand you disprove it otherwise it is therefore true. The Republicans have been voting to protect Donald Trump and his world of alternative facts for the past four years, so clearly there is a pattern in play here. What do you want the government to do? I expect them to tell the truth you utterly retarded idiot. I expect them to either certify the vote or produce evidence that the vote was compromised. A simple Google search illustrates that they have no evidence to back up the claims they are making because Trump's cases are all being thrown out of court:- Side: True.
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LoL You expect the government to Google, "was there voter fraud in the U.S. 2020 elections?" And then act on that ;) The process involves law suits and investigations. That's exactly what's going on. The reason they haven't certified the vote is because they are going through the process of investigation. Trump claims he has a case and he wants to present his evidence. So they have to look and listen to whatever he presents as evidence. Then they have to decide if it's valid evidence. If it's not valid, they throw it out. I mean, just because the process is taking far longer than what you want is of no consequence. Like I said, you just don't have any clout across the pond, mate ;) Side: True.
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LoL You expect the government to Google, "was there voter fraud in the U.S. 2020 elections?" Am I arguing with the government or with you? Shut up you stupid moron. The process involves law suits and investigations. Joe, get it through your incredibly thick head that there is no combination of words you can use which will make demonstrably baseless allegations designed to undermine the democratic process into a reason not to certify a clearly legitimate vote count. Shut your idiot mouth, for God's sake man. It is difficult to even believe people like you are permitted to vote. Side: Wait..., what? No!
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LoL X 2 So let me get this straight. Are you claiming to be an expert in identifying "baseless allegations designed to undermine the democratic process" or an expert in identifying a "legitimate vote count?" Perhaps you are claiming that Google is the expert ;) Regardless of what you think, the U.S. is going to do what the U.S. is doing. You have no clout here, mate ;) Side: Wait..., what? No!
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Inconsequential Brits cannot officially declare the U.S. election results on a debate site The election result was called on the morning of the 7th November. It is now the 19th of November, so have you maybe been asleep for the past two weeks? The election results show that Joe Biden won by a considerable margin of victory. In order for Trump to declare that he won -- which he did several times, both before and after the race was called -- he would have to be aware of exactly what was fraudulent and what was not fraudulent, in order to deduct one from the other and make a final result with himself as winner. That means Donald Trump expects us to believe that he was able to conduct a thorough investigation of fraud while the count was going on. But that contradicts the entire basis of his complaints that Republicans were not permitted access to vote counts!!!!! So which is it? Have Republicans had access and done a complete fraud investigation during the counting process, or were they barred access? Because it can't be both. The argument that, you didn't let me see what was going on, therefore I won, has been and will continue to be laughed out of court. So I suggest you focus your efforts on something other than the support of 1930s fascism, because it is probably going to be usurped for at least the next 4 years. Perhaps you can help kill another 70 million people after that, you retarded fucking idiot. Side: True.
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U wasn;t arguing to reject education That is correct. You were doing that. I told him to get an education and you told me that education doesn't equal knowledge. but to say, you can have knowlege, without education. I'm afraid I don't know what your point is. I can have apples without owning an orchard. That doesn't mean an orchard isn't going to help. Side: Wait..., what? No!
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So let me get this straight. Are you claiming to be an expert in identifying "baseless allegations designed to undermine the democratic process" or an expert in identifying a "legitimate vote count?" LOL X 100 Yeah, lulz. So you are telling us that I need to be an "expert" to open Google and read about the 30 different cases the Trump Campaign has already had thrown out due to a total lack of evidence? I need to be an "expert" to find something suspicious about Trump claiming fraud without having any evidence of fraud? You are so stupid it beggars belief, Joe. Side: True.
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Look, you are all about proof. I get it. Really.., I do. Which is why I am asking you for your proof that Trump doesn't have any evidence of fraud. Oh..., BTW...., saying that you Googled it does not count as proof. And as proof of that I present the fact that Googling something isn't necessarily admissible in a court of law. I mean, imagine how that would work, "Your honor, I didn't kill the defendant and as proof I would like to submit my Google searches." ;) Side: True.
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Look, you are all about proof. I get it. Ahahaha! Joe, you would not "get it" even if "it" was punching you in the face and screaming out Bon Jovi hits. The election has happened and Trump lost. Those are the facts. If you want a Trump dictatorship then he can simply go buy an island and you stupid fucking cultist retards can all go live over there instead. Sound good? Side: Wait..., what? No!
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The following statements are indisputable: The election happened. Yes. Trump is contesting the election results. The courts and various officials are looking into Trump's claims. Some of his claims have already been thrown out and deemed baseless. It will be sometime still before the final election results are official. The U.S. hasn't recognized BurritoLunch's assessment of the election. The U.S. intends to follow the process to its conclusion. Then, and only then, will the election results be made official. JoeCavalry has never said Trump won the election. JoeCavalry has never said Biden lost the election. JoeCavalry has merely stated that the elected officials have yet to declare the final results pending an investigation. JoeCavalry has never said whether or not he thinks Trump's allegations are baseless or not. Joe_Cavalry has avoided calling the election results one way or another simply because it pisses off BurritoLunch ;) Side: Wait..., what? No!
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The following statements are indisputable Trump is contesting the election results You left the word "baselessly" off the end of that indisputable statement. The election results show that Biden won. Trump claims that he won, baselessly, and in direct contradiction to what the rest of the world says. Side: True.
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Trump's contesting the election cannot be called baseless OBVIOUSLY it can, because the entirety of the world media has documented that it is baseless you retarded cultist idiot. Even Fox News are now enduring the chants of "fake news" from you idiotic bunch of Nazi morons. Side: Wait..., what? No!
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Oh, I see...., it is your opinion that Biden won It is a fact that Biden won you boring, stupid cultist retard. The Associated Press has called the election in favour of Biden. See:- Instead of relying on crowd-sourcing or vulnerable technology, our 50-state network of local reporters have first-hand knowledge of their territories and trusted relationships with county clerks and other local officials. Our stringers collect the votes and phone them into vote entry clerks who key in the data. We also gather results from county and state websites and electronic data feeds. Votes are subject to an intense series of checks and verifications. Side: Wait..., what? No!
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Yeah, but Yeah but you're an idiot Joe. The typical American retard. Lots to say, and all of it stupid. Only the elected officials who have been granted the authority to call the election are able to do so.... officially It is indisputable that Joe Biden won the 2020 presidential election. If you are telling me that you support Republicans trying to prevent that result from being certified then you are telling me that you support fascism. There is zero ambiguity about who won and who lost the election Joe. Side: True.
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You are reading way too much into what I am saying. I am only saying that the elected officials will call the election when they are good and ready. Not before and definitely not because you say so ;) I will say this though, you are more persistent in trying to influence the U.S. elections than those pesky Russians ;) Side: True.
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You are reading way too much into what I am saying. I am only saying that the elected officials will call the election when they are good and ready. Joe, you are saying absolutely nothing, as per usual. You are just flatulating with your mouth. We know what the result of the election was, and we knew ahead of time what Trump's reaction would be if he lost, so stop pretending his claims about winning have any credibility. They do not. Side: Wait..., what? No!
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I didn't say they had credibility. Will you please just shut up? It's pathetic watching you twist and change your own argument from one post to the next. When I said that Biden had won you replied mockingly with:- it is your opinion that Biden won And now you are denying that we are arguing about Trump's baseless claims that Biden did not win??? You're a fucking idiot Joe, and that is accurately reflected in the fact that you can't even maintain a consistent argument. Side: True.
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I never intended to maintain a consistent argument. My intent was to frustrate you That's great Joe. So you have so far wasted over three hours of your day in a quest to "frustrate" a total stranger on the internet. What a thorough fucking retard you are, buddy. Side: Wait..., what? No!
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So, COVID is going to wreck the world's economy. And whoever is president is going to get the blame. It doesn't matter what they do, there will be arm chair pundits that will claim the president made the wrong choice. Then, in 2024, the conservatives will come in and sweep the election after 4 years of liberal mismanagement. Remember, you heard it here first ;) Side: True.
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Having said all of that The psychology of idiots like you is just so predictable Joe. You are narcissistic to the point of total self-delusion and when your arguments are all ripped apart, you retreat to the final bastion of: I was just trying to make you angry. Side: Wait..., what? No!
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And here is you several posts earlier, after being told that Republican election officials are refusing to certify the vote count in Georgia, because of Trump's arbitrary and baseless claims of fraud:- Sounds like both sides are to blame. If the Dems would only go along with the Conservatives, then we would have a resolution. Can you actually explain what the point is of twisting through a swamp of various different opinions, finally settling on any one I can't disprove? Because I'll explain it Joe. You're a fucking idiot. Period. Side: True.
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You should never wrestle with a pig. You both end up dirty and the pig likes it Lol. You delusional cretin. I wonder if you have actually convinced that tiny mind of yours that you really did write over 10,000 words simply to "frustrate" me. I think you probably have. Side: True.
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How can I lose an argument when I wasn't arguing? Ah, yes. The "There Is No Spoon" defence. I believe the last person to use this got life without parole. You may have to go back and delete the dozens of posts you have written, and of course my replies to them, but I think if you manage to erase all of that from the space-time continuum it could work. Side: True.
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But..., I'm entertained!!! Are you not entertained? What are you mad bro ;) Oh hey, I forgot to say this in one of my previous posts... so freaking Amazon tells me about a better desk after the fact that i already bought one! So I bought that one too ;) Should be here after Thanx Giving. I'm patient. I'll wait. Mainly because i didn't pay for shipping ;) Just like I'll wait for 2024 ;) Side: Wait..., what? No!
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Oh..., wait..., my Amazon package just arrived. I'll chat you up tomorrow. Go talk to Dana. I think she's the only other person here that will entertain you ;) No problem good buddy. It must be quite inspiring to have spent the last three hours surreptitiously working to frustrate me, only to finally get frustrated and leave. 😆 Side: True.
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I just got a new desk to make working from home easier ;) But i came back because I was reading some liberal media publication and look what I found! The battle over the results of the 2020 election has brought new attention to an important but often-overlooked part of the U.S. election process: Certification of the results. Each state has laws that set the deadline and process for the results to be certified. This process takes place locally and eventually at the state level. Even they agree! It ain't over until some elected official certifies the votes ;) Side: True.
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And this: Joe Biden may be the new president-elect — but with President Donald Trump attempting to undermine the results and Senate control up still up for grabs, the story of the election is far from over. Did you read that? Biden may be the new president ;) Oh, and the part about, the story of the election is far from over. ;) Side: True.
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See? It ain't over Your own link says the results are already in you retard. The electoral college can't change the results. They can only certify them or refuse to certify them, and without evidence of fraud refusing to certify them is the end of democracy. Side: Wait..., what? No!
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The results need to be certified before they go to the electoral college From your own link you retard:- Trump allies urge going a step further, floating the idea that Republican-controlled state legislatures should ignore the vote for President-elect Joe Biden in their states and send Trump's slate of electors to the Electoral College instead. Side: True.
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That does not say that the votes do not need to be certified first It says that certification is the final step before the chosen electors are sent to the electoral college you fucking idiot. Read your own link, retard:- The crucial step before appointing electors: Certifying the election After the results are certified the electors are appointed to the electoral college. There is no next step after that; you simply can't read English because you're too goddamned stupid. Side: Wait..., what? No!
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But i came back because You came back because you can't bear for anybody else to have the last word. Even they agree! Yes, but they can read and understand English. The results have happened. We know who won. Certification is supposed to be a formality not a political weapon. Side: True.
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Not before and definitely not because you say so Your rather unbalanced assertion that the world is waiting with baited breath for a result which was already called two weeks ago is just fucking stupid Joe. Shut up. We already know who won the election and you're a fucking idiot. Side: Wait..., what? No!
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It seems like just yesterday when cons were yelling: "Hillary lost, Trump won .... GET OVER IT!" Then there was the: "Elections have consequences! GET OVER IT!" Well ............... ???? The shoe's on the other foot now, GET OVER IT! Elections have consequences! Rump LOST! Side: Wait..., what? No!
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