Joe_Cavalry All Day Every Day

"You're insane . . . . ."

Yay for synonyms!

Oral sex is also oral sex

Anal sex is also anal sex

Sex is also sex

And "intercourse" is:

1: connection or dealings between persons or groups

2: exchange especially of thoughts or feelings : communion

3: physical sexual contact between individuals that involves the genitalia of at least one person ; especially : sexual intercourse 1

So if "consummation" requires "intercourse," and "intercourse" includes any kind of sex involving the junk, one can use oral or anal sex to consummate a marriage.

The definitions are very clear. Pity there's so many of them, and they so often contradict one another.

I did look at MW and apparently you are just making this shit up:

1: connection or dealings between persons or groups

2: exchange especially of thoughts or feelings : communion

3: physical sexual contact between individuals that involves the genitalia of at least one person ; especially : sexual intercourse 1

So not only does "intercourse" have different meaning than the sexual one, but the sexual one specifically references oral and anal sex and being a type of intercourse.

Nice try, joe.

Intercourse

Sexual intercourse

Sex

Anal sex

Oral sex

Vag on vag sex

It doesn't seem like it's really a very complicated connection to make.

Anyways, mainly I just wanted to say I don't think you'd be bringing this issue up if some war vet paralyzed from the waist down (including his penis) got married after his tour.

Haha actually what am I saying... you of all people just might do that.

Yes I do XD

I stop participating in debates when it becomes evident it is no longer about anything other than getting the last word in. I've been there done that with you before, joe.

Because he's too busy trying to turn this site into a reddit/uberhumor hybrid.

Hahaha just kidding. Well no he is actually trying to do that, but he does also occasionally engage in serious debate. Occasionally. We just got into it in a real debate over gay marriage.

Haha I should've known all I had to do was include more women and less "offensive" comparisons to the black civil rights movement to get my point through to you.

Despite your assertions about the point of language being to cut down on ambiguity we don't really use it at all like that in situations like these, and like the example she gave. And in the "offensive" examples I gave.

I understand the confusion. When people say they are pro choice, they mean they like the ability to make choices and keep making choices. Despite how it sounds, pro-choice actually refers to more than one choice; ultimately the ability to choose to run your sex life however you choose. I could see how anti-choice advocates may think pro-choicers may just make their one choice in life and then be content to let the government make all subsequent choices for them - but I'll be damned they just keep wanting to make their own decisions.

I buy it when I see his third arm or at very least see him glow in the dark.