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That’s like something a drama queen would say

LOL

Says the rabid idiot who conspired with three other neo-fascist trolls to "boycott" all of my posts! You whiny little child.

Conversation with you is always exhausting, because before one can even begin each sentence they must turn reality back the right way round.

Americans automatically like people with an English accent.

Then why are English people usually the bad guys in American films?

I don't think you're wrong, btw. I just think it's curious.

MathFan, I appreciate...you

Hi Mathfan. In case you were not aware, butchering my sentences is not a form of intellectual debate. The problem with trying to pretend to others that you are an intellectual is that you display none of the characteristics of an intellectual. Your ego forbids you to accept being wrong on any matter, and when somebody has a better argument than you do (as in this particular case) it inevitably leads to these types of distortions in your replies.

The 'root(s) of the problem' are the factors leading people to lash out in hyper-violent manner.

Battlemage absolutely nailed it with his response. Violence exists because some people are unhappy. Gun violence exists because people have guns. Hence, you are trying to warp the problem of gun violence into the more general problem of violence and hoping nobody notices. If I "lash out in a hyper-violent manner", I'm not going to kill 17 children unless I have a gun in my hands.

Your premise essentially seems to be that we cannot tackle the problem of gun violence without first creating a Utopian society where everybody is permanently happy. Frankly, everything you are saying is retarded and grounded in complete fallacy. There is a much simpler solution to gun violence than the impossible task of creating a society where there is no depression or violence, you impossibly obnoxious retard.

So...., if guns are the problem, how come the other gun owners aren't shooting up the place?

Because they OBVIOUSLY don't need to in order for guns to be a problem. If I sell ten people nuclear ballistic missiles, and only one of them uses them to wipe out France, then that does not make selling people nuclear ballistic missiles a good idea.

I just don't understand how Americans can be so impossibly ignorant of reason on the issue of guns. When you sell people guns you dramatically increase the damage they can do if their intentions are bad, and there are always going to be people with bad intentions.

I did not even state my position on guns

Yes you did. You blamed school shootings on everything except guns. That makes your position perfectly clear.

I am astonished that the British don't blame paintings on brushes

Nobody is trying to prevent paintings, you impossibly thick, drunken NRA shill.

Again, that still does not address the roots of the issue--simply one way that the accompanying problems manifest

MathFan, I appreciate that you are arrogant and stupid, so I am going to be patient enough to repeat myself.

The "accompanying problem" is that people (namely innocent children) keep getting shot by guns. The ROOT OF THAT ISSUE is the fact that you are arming the people who are doing it with guns. You are providing them the direct means to cause the problem under discussion. Literally nothing you wrote in your list can be considered the "roots of the issue" because however lonely, isolated, bullied or depressed a person might be, they physically can't shoot up a school unless you sell them a gun.

Is that clear enough for you, moron?

Logically, we should be addressing the roots of the issue--typically social exclusion, isolation, ostracization, bullying, failure of Community networking/support system (which is overwhelmingly non-existent), less avenues available for the target to address bullies, ect. ect.

Logically, the root of the issue is none of the things you listed. The root of the issue is arming people with guns.

I have to add that it is simply bizarre to watch Americans blame shootings on literally everything except guns. It is an astonishing sight to behold you guys circumventing basic common sense every time there's another bloodbath.

It couldn't be simpler, MathFan. Stop giving people guns and people stop getting shot.

I like the song.

The problem you have with your "heroes welcome" theory is that they weren't heroes. In WW2 they were heroes. In Vietnam they were the weapon of a series of presidents who were deceiving the country about the need for involvement. Vietnam wanted a peaceful transition to Communism after many years of French colonial rule, and instead they got many more years of American colonial rule.

You can argue that they were just doing a job etc... And that is all fine and dandy, but on that occasion they picked the wrong job if popularity was their career aim. Since then America has become a textbook military culture, with pressure being put on everybody to worship "the troops" regardless of what they actually do, or who they do it on behalf of.