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Makes sense I don't get it
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Changing yourself is easier than trying to change someone else.

A fairy tale:

once upon a time there were 10 women and 10 men on an island and 7 of the women developed a trait that the men started attributing to the female gender.  The other 3 women found this to be offensive.  They were thus faced with the options of trying to change the 10 men, the other 7 women, or changing themselves (3 women).

In their first attempt at changing the 10 men, the 3 women were somehow able to pass legislation to force the men to stop attributing that trait to women.  The men never mentioned it again (in the presence of a woman) but they still gave each other knowing nods and a wink whenever they saw a woman displaying that trait.  Legislation was thus not the fix to the problem.

The 3 women then tried indoctrinating their sons and taught them that just because some women are that way, not all women are that way.  This seemed to work up to a point.  Young people are usually idealistic but as they get older they tend to become more cynical and, as time went on, they joined the ranks of the older males that just nodded and winked at each other when ever a woman displayed that trait.

The 3 women then thought about changing the other 7 women but if those women were offended by the males, they would have changed themselves in order to not be associated with that offensive trait.  The 3 women realized that the other 7 women just couldn't change.

So (here's the fairy tale part) the 3 women gave up trying to change anybody and instead changed themselves to accept that the situation was just human nature.

The moral of the story is not that you can't change anyone.  The moral of the story is that it is easier to change yourself and let the everyone else do their own thing.  I've used men and women in this fairy tale but you could have picked almost any group that is at odds about a single issue (like abortion or gay marriage) but abortion is a hot issue and I couldn't have picked gay marriage and called it a fairy tale, now could I ;)

 

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This is why I don't raise a finger to get abortion laws changed and why I recommend that gays grab their legal rights and give it another name.

I don't like conflict but I smile whenever I see someone all pissed off at someone else because I'm like, "You still don't get it, do you?" ;)

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Yea, it makes sense. I'm currently in the process of learning to change my acceptance of my husband's smoking and drinking so that I can just let him do that crap because there's nothing convincing him to stop. It's just pretty annoying; I mean, this is MY husband, and he's doing crap that'll take him away before he's 60 (runs in the men in his family to die of heart problems by 55 from smoking) and "I" have to sit around and learn to deal with it. I mean, no wonder people just do what everyone else does... they just give up because the alternative (what I'm doing) is a bit annoying and depressing to sit back and watch. The other alternatives are that I a) start to find it amusing instead, or b) start smoking and drinking with him and maybe I'll die with him (doubt it). How lame.

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You have got to look at the silver lining in everything. In the case of your husband, I'd take out a multi-million dollar life insurance on his ass ;)

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