Return to CreateDebate.comjaded • Join this debate community

Joe_Cavalry All Day Every Day


Debate Info

9
9
Black and Blue White and Gold
Debate Score:18
Arguments:23
Total Votes:18
More Stats

Argument Ratio

side graph
 
 Black and Blue (9)
 
 White and Gold (8)

Debate Creator

jolie(9805) pic



I see blue and dark brown/black when I look at the image on a screen that is tilted at an angle to me, either laterally or vertically. 30-45 degree angle depending on the screen.

Side: Black and Blue
1 point

I do too but I have to look from nearly the edge of the monitor.

Side: Black and Blue
jolie(9805) Clarified
1 point

What sorcery is this?

Side: Black and Blue

http://starcasm.net/archives/308050

It isn't white and gold what idiot would say that?

Side: Black and Blue

I see it as white and gold. Somehow I feel like the photo is edited or something. The actual dress is far too vivid.

Side: Black and Blue
1 point

I see blue ,black and gold. Does this mean I'm retarded? :(

Maybe one of my eyes is broken.

Side: Black and Blue
Nomoturtle(848) Clarified
1 point

those are actually the real colours of the dress, your eyes are fine. peoples brains are not.

Side: Black and Blue
ProLogos(2794) Clarified
1 point

Hehe. Do you watch brain games? I love that program :D

Side: Black and Blue
1 point

I once watched a training video while employed at a medical facility to test our critical observation.

People with yellow and white T shirts we're passing a ball to each other and we were asked to count how many times the white's held the ball.

At the end of the video we all had about the same number then the trainer asked how many of us saw the gorilla.....?

What gorilla we asked....?

He replayed the video and there it was half way through someone dressed in a gorilla suit danced through the group and none of us saw it.

With that in mind to each individual this dress could be any of these colours.?

Side: Black and Blue

I can almost imagine the black parts as being gold, but that blue is blue. I cannot make myself see it as white, regardless of how hard I try.

Side: Black and Blue
1 point

I see white and gold. I think that people who see black and blue are just trying to mess with me.

Side: White and Gold
1 point

You're wrong it turns out it blue

http://starcasm.net/archives/308050

People who see white and gold are just freaks.

Side: Black and Blue

I see white and gold when looking at the image straight on.

Side: White and Gold
1 point

The article (top link) shows another picture of the dress and it is clearly black and blue.

Side: White and Gold
thousandin1(1931) Clarified
1 point

I saw that too. I think I would need to see the actual dress in person to make the call. But the specific image generating the controversy looks either white and gold or blue and black/brown to me depending on the angle I view it from.

Side: Black and Blue
1 point

You're colour blind.

Side: Black and Blue
2 points

You're colour blind.

Could you link me to the specific disorders that cause white-blue or gold-black colorblindness? I'm pretty sure it doesn't work that way.

That aside...

Strictly speaking, upon scrutiny, the 'white/blue' portion looks like a very pale blue upon scrutiny, but is certainly closer to 'white' than it is to 'blue.' Again, with the image linked in this article, looked at directly on my flat panel monitor, with the color temperature and intensity settings that I am using.

A different model monitor, the same model monitor with different color temperature/intensity settings, the same model monitor with the same settings that is older or newer, the same exact monitor viewed from different angles- all of these will give a different overall image.

Side: White and Gold
1 point

Ever since this dress thing became popular, I've only seen white and gold!

Side: White and Gold
1 point

this crap is everywhere now. personally i see white and gold and that has not changed. here is what i found out:

1. i go to school so everyone i encountered was around the same age, yet there was about a 50-50 split amongst who saw what, so i dont think the idea that something in the eyes was deteriorating to make older people less sensitive to colour. i also asked older and younger people than i and still i got the same spread.

2. ive looked at this photo with a variety of effects (iphone effects) but this photo does not change to blue and black which is apparently the colours of the dress when deconstructed in photoshop and in other pictures. so it may not be anything particularly special about the colours themselves. (previously i had an idea it was a colour that didnt exist and our brain was substituting the closest existing colour. this is not the case)

3. ive tried looking at this photo in different lightings and at different angles, but to no change so it isnt the angle you look at it or the light intensity of your surroundings.

4. it is hard to believe that half the population is colour blind so that is probably not the case. even so: got people to look in the background of the photo and got a singular opinions. havent really heard of white-blue colour blindness anyway.

5. made people who have not previously seen the photo describe the colour of an individual part of the photo which contained virtually one colour only for both 'white' and 'gold' parts before asking the colours of the composite picture, but i still got a spread of blue and black, white and gold. however at the very least the colour they see on the composite dress is consistent with the individual colours described.

6. i had myself (with both a short and long sighted eye), people with glasses and people without glasses describe the colour, but to the same 50-50 spread amongst them.

7. i had everyone view this picture on the same screen, and still got the same spread. so it is not any particular screen setup or display property.

8. a few people (somewhat rare) see one colour then switch to seeing the other later, but i performed 1-7 on them with no change during that period of 1-7.

conclusion: not really anything left to conclude, ive tried to disprove virtually everything. but i think, despite 8, that this is to do with the brain rather than anything physiological. it seems that once a colour is chosen maybe due to individual sensitivity to different colours it will tend to stick that way (where switchers maybe have no particular tendency towards either colour). i think the blue-gold spread is more important than differentiating gold and black because i think the overlay of 'choosing' white affects the black-brown to turn lighter (gold).

an experiment i have not tried and would really like to see is that the picture is printed and shown under different colours of light.

maybe that will help provide a solution?

Side: White and Gold

I see what my eyes identify as 'white' and 'gold'.

Side: White and Gold
1 point

its white and gold .. :)

Side: White and Gold