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Debate Score:42
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Total Votes:55
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Maybe they should NOT have danced on the streets on 9/11

 

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Maybe they should have been more like..., "Oh, shit! We're screwed." ;)

Side: True
2 points

Just to put numbers to this, deaths in 9/11 was about 3000, US casualties about 6000, Afghan civilians about 50 thousand, and Iraqi civilians around a million. Crazy.

Side: True
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It says nothing about terrorists, taliban and insurgents... which makes me think that this graph is highly flawed.

inb4 gary says "terrorists taliban and insurgents are innocent"

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garry77777(1794) Disputed
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"It says nothing about terrorists, taliban and insurgents... which makes me think that this graph is highly flawed."

Do you doubt that the overwhelming majority of people who suffered and died at the hands of your countries hideous aggression were civilians?

"terrorists taliban and insurgents are innocent"

Innocent of what? If you mean innocent of committing an aggression against the US, and doing nothing substantial to provoke or antagonise the US into invading their respective (i.e. Iraq and Afghanistan) countries, then yes, they are/were innocent. The only thing they are guilty of is taking up arms against foreign invaders, but that makes them terrorists, doesn't it? Yes, they are in no way morally equivalent to the US, the fine upstanding US who is responsible for the greatest genocide of the past decade.

Side: True
Bohemian(3861) Disputed
1 point

Do you doubt that the overwhelming majority of people who suffered and died at the hands of your countries hideous aggression were civilians?

I doubt that this graph is even remotely close to reality. According to this graph not a single insurgent, Sectarian extremist, Militant, Iraqi soldier or afghan soldier was killed in the course of the whole conflict, which is obviously false.

Innocent of what? If you mean innocent of committing an aggression against the US, and doing nothing substantial to provoke or antagonise the US

You mean the Taliban? Except for harboring, training, and supplying Al Qaeda forces. Besides decapitating civilian hostages and videotaping it and posting it on the internet. Besides planting IEDs where civilians live and work. Besides using children as suicide bombers. Besides assassinating Government officials. Besides spraying battery acid in the face of little girls who dare to go to school. Girls are not allowed to go to school according to Taliban Theology.

This in addition to Al Qaeda forces and Al Qaeda leaders, (those directly responsible for 9/11) that have been found in both countries. As well as foreign Radical Islamic militia groups that bolster Taliban forces.

Congratulations you are an apologist for the of Islamic Extremism.

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Bohemian(3861) Disputed
1 point

About 78% of civilian casualties in Afghanistan, are caused by anti-government forces.

Source:

http://unama.unmissions.org/Portals/UNAMA/human%20rights/March%20PoC%20Annual%20Report%20Final.pdf

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I was thinking the same thing. According to this graph not a single insurgent, Sectarian extremist, Militant, Iraqi soldier or afghan soldier was killed in the course of the whole conflict, which is obviously false.

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