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Scientists now say that global warming is created by nature.

Clouds Contributed to Record Greenland Ice Melt

http://www.livescience.com/28399-clouds-greenland-ice-melt.html

The culprit behind the record-shattering level of ice melting in Greenland in 2012 may have been low, thin clouds, new research suggests.

These novel findings, detailed in the April 4 issue of the journal Nature, may help answer climate mysteries elsewhere in the Arctic, the researchers said.

 

 

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OK people, this debate is over. You can't argue with a scientist ;)

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racerecon70(98) Disputed
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Wait your topic is not clear..And anyway scientists make mistakes, you know.

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Yeah like remember when they said global warming was caused by carbon emissions?

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It was never caused significantly by human action, if at all.

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Klisters(5) Disputed
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so the fact that just the spread of agriculture and the delayed ice age that would have covered most of the countries that border to the polar circle by 7000 years is just a big coincidence?

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Junieor year in high school I did a report about how global warming was actually natural and its caused by a climate sycle thet the earth moves through and supported my theory by highlighting several times through out history when the earth hit these so called "record highs" and then cooled back down again. So if what your saying is true then both history and science refute global warming.

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earth has been gradualing warming and freezing for millions of years it just so happens that it is happening when an species can actually think for its self

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I always thought so. I just assumed that the dying sun was causing the earth to get warmer.

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In a way I think this is very true. In another, I think the solar cycle contributes a lot to extreme weather patterns that go against what we call 'climatology.' The earth is millions of years old not to mention huge and it's hard for me to believe a few hundred years of our research (if that) that humans are the cause of it.

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Right, and whatever we cause....is natural!

We're apart of nature as much as we try to deny it, and everything we do is a part of nature.

We are almost directly responsible for a species of bird adapting their wing span. We caused some evolution to happen. If we're not nature's force I don't know what is.

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No human action can account for climate change, nonetheless, it doesn't even exist.

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It's a natural phenomenon.

How do you think Mars got dried up?

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You do realize that the title says "Contributed" and not "Created by Nature", right?

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Yeah, you're right...The culprit of this is STILL mainly us because of us..

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You do realize that this debate wouldn't have been as popular as it turned out if I had used "contributed" instead of "created," right ;)

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joecavalry(39807) Clarified
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It's all in the presentation ;)

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I like how if one person who might have a PHD says something, you expect everyone to flock over and say " Oooh err, he must be right, innit!"

So If Al Gore says that is is man made, then it must be? Based on what I have heard, and what tends to be what everyone else thinks, it is our fault the planet is heating up, due to greenhouse gasses, and not nature. OF course climates change naturally, how do you think the last few ice ages happened?! However, the way our climate is changing now is at the wrong time, and is changing far too quickly for it to be down to nature.

Awww, you're so gullible Joe :)

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Cartman(18192) Disputed
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you're so gullible

You believe what Al Gore says. How are you any better? He isn't a scientist.

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Jungelson(3954) Disputed
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Perhaps read what I write first? Firstly I was talking about how you should not believe something just because one man says it, then I made a comparison to a man who believes the opposite to what the so called scientist said.

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Jungelson(3954) Disputed
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Oh, and I never did say I believe what Al Gore says. As a Man, I really don't like him so try to avoid him as much as I can.

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Wait, I didn't take much notice of the title and subtitles, but " clouds formed global warming..."

Oh of course, the whole " We are sending Carbon dioxide and sulphur dioxide which is creating a think layer in the atmosphere which is trapping the suns UV rays and causing the planet to heat up" has nothing to do with this. Of course not, obviously, silly me, that a build up of clouds suddenly causing the planet to heat up is all a natural process, and we have nothing to do with it.

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Well, Obviously...

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Isn't it scientifically proved that the CO2 in our ozone layer is caused by our massive use of oil and other stuff?

And isn't it scientifically proved, that the earth is warming up, because the heat can't escape through the thick layer of CO2?

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It is proven, you are correct, and has been for nearly two decades now.

Joe gets these articles expecting no one will read the whole thing because he has some weird hard-on for all right-wing propaganda.

The article is about Greenland specifically, not the globe, and an unusual rate of ice melt in Greenland, even more ice melting than in other areas.

"The July 2012 event was triggered by an influx of unusually warm air, but that was only one factor," said study researcher Dave Turner, a physical scientist at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's National Severe Storms Laboratory. "

That Greenland had accelerated ice melt even above what has been caused by man-made global warming is the subject, the subject is not that global warming does not exist. The article does not even make that claim.

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Cartman(18192) Disputed
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That stuff basically can't be proven unfortunately. That's why Joe can keep finding these things.

CO2 is released in the air by non human methods.

Obviously the sun is heating up the Earth, whether or not the clouds are trapping that heat is hard to determine. It could be that the sun is radiating more energy.

That's why Joe gets to keep making these debates.

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Well okay then :). .

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2 points

1. Greenland is not the globe.

2. The article says nothing about man-made global warming, not a word.

That Greenland had accelerated ice melt even above what has been caused by man-made global warming is the subject, the subject is not that global warming does not exist. The article does not make that claim.

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I always hear about 'natural cycles'...well, yes, they exist...and if you do a little research, we should be in a cooling part of the cycle. I know what that tells me - if we're warming, it's us that's doing it.

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Most scientists believe that global warming is largely caused by human beings and the way they and we run industry and transport by burning fossil fuels. Global warming is caused by the increase in the amount of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases in the atmosphere.

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