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Fine, I'll move! I think I'll stay and reload.
Debate Score:42
Arguments:41
Total Votes:42
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So you're telling me you want to ban guns because other countries have done it?

 

How about instead of you insisting on taking away my rights tomake you happy, you move your happy ass to one of those promised lands?

Fine, I'll move!

Side Score: 22
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I think I'll stay and reload.

Side Score: 20
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I live in one of the "promised lands" where there is gun control and believe me its a much safer place to be than where you are

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Cartman(18192) Disputed
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That's great. If it is so much safer why don't complainers leave in droves to come to your country?

Side: I think I'll stay and reload.
Atrag(5556) Disputed
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That is a rhetoric question right? You know why people don't leave their home countries even when they realise other countries are better.

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the US has a problem with guns, this is undeniable. it is has the highest gun related deaths among developed countries in the world. however while banning guns is only one solution, other nations have proven its potency for reducing gun crimes. just look at these two links, the correlation is generally very obvious. it isn't even up for argument. restricting guns is effective. a good example is japan. 0.6 guns per 100 people. 0.06 gun-deaths per 100,000. if you were to scale japans total gun related deaths by population in comparison to the US, the US should have a min5, max 30 deaths per year.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Listofcountriesbyfirearm-relateddeathrate

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numberofgunspercapitabycounhowever there are large discrepencies in this trend, and frankly this is because the US is so irresponsible. america has a total of about 30,000 deaths gun related deaths annually. 8000 of these are homicides, leaving 22,000 gun-[suicides or accidents]. additionally there are countries with relatively high gun ownership rates, but with far lower gun related deaths per capita. eg. germany with 30.3 guns per hundred (relatively very high from the mean rate per country, but pales to the US's trophy 88.8) has 1.24 deaths per 100,000. america has 8 times this, despite also having relatively high gun ownership rates.

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What you fail to realize is that maybe those gun related deaths were justified. For example, maybe they were too stupid to be playing with a gun, or maybe they deserved to be shot for something they did or maybe their life did suck and so they're better off dead.

No matter how you look at it, those death reduced the congestion in our streets. And that's always a good thing. It also reduced America's carbon foot print, thus alleviating the global warming problem. I don't understand why the rest of the world thinks that dying is a bad thing.

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jolie(9805) Clarified
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We now have drones that can fire a gun:

https://youtu.be/xqHrTtvFFIs

Isn't America great?

Supporting Evidence: https://youtu.be/xqHrTtvFFIs (youtu.be)
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1 point

an epiphany. your wisdom has reached me, thank you .

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From what I can tell, strict gun legislation alone will only prevent mass murders, not violent crimes. (At least until someone comes up with a better mass-murder weapon.)

Side: I think I'll stay and reload.
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When I'm done reloading I'm gonna lock and load another 20 round clip, move the selector switch to full auto, and I'm gonna rock and roll.

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liberals have guns too you know....

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we just think if you are going to take on that responsibility, you need to take it ALL on, not just the 'fun' part.

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following a few simple rules akin to owning a car does not seem like the end of freedom to most SANE ppl.

Side: I think I'll stay and reload.