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Awww, bless his heart. Dirty mother f*cker.
Debate Score:86
Arguments:52
Total Votes:102
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Venezuela's Hugo Chavez dies from cancer.

Awww, bless his heart.

Side Score: 53
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Dirty mother f*cker.

Side Score: 33
4 points

This is a sad day for Venezuelans. This is a sad day for the Bolivarian Progressive Movements, and this is a sad day for all who inhabit South America. Hugo Chavez brought hope to his people from oppression. He brought true democracy and improved living standards immensely. RIP Hugo... :..(

Side: Awww, bless his heart.
3 points

Such an amazing guy. We need more leaders like him.

Side: Awww, bless his heart.
Elvira(3441) Clarified
2 points

And actually I first heard this morning sometime before 9, at form.

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1 point

I genuinely have no problem with the man and think he did the best he could as the leader of Venezuela. Unfortunately I fear he may end up in heaven and this breaks my heart.

Otherwise may he rule in hell eternally.

Side: Awww, bless his heart.
0 points

No Prodigee, we get this one in Socialistic heaven. He can be with the lovers of equality.

Side: Awww, bless his heart.
1 point

Jesus said to love your enemies. I am sad that he died .

Side: Awww, bless his heart.
2 points

why would you consider him an enemy... because fox news told you so?

Side: Dirty mother f*cker.
Sitara(11075) Disputed
1 point

Bite your tongue! I am democratic socialist liberal Messianic Jew who hates Fox "News"! I was making a point for the people that hate him, that is all!

Side: Awww, bless his heart.
1 point

The funny thing is, just a few days ago I made a debate about Hugo Chavez and Venezuela. I can predict the future???

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1 point

I am actually support those people who sorrow with venezuelans. Citizens of Venezuela lost a great person who developed his native country. His name and exploits, heroic deeds must not die with him. I support Lukashenko's idea to change the name of old street in Minsk and rename in Hugo Chavez's street. I think it's very good idea.

Side: Awww, bless his heart.
1 point

ANY of you who say his death is a good thing need to remember that there are plenty of people out there who loved him.

Besides for those of us outside the USA he was awesome, finally a democratic leader who was not afraid to pull the fingers at the USA! lets face the whole of Europe and South America, feels that the USA basically orders us to do things, our governments just do what their told. Chavez just turned around and said "piss off" to the worlds most powerful nation! THAT TAKES BALLS! unlike G.W.Bush who was a cheer leader if memory serves me right.

Also the USA should never, ever complain about other nations, get off that high pedestal and face facts, since when has the US been such a righteous nation... WHEN your leaders can commit as many war crimes as they want and not get punished AND your citizens are not subject to international law.

so are you really so great when you make yourselves above the law? perhaps its time your criticise yourselves before you go and complain about others... I do not dislike the people of the USA only the nations politics, sorry if I cause offence but seriously the fact some one could drone strike me for no reason and not be convicted for murder just seems wrong.

Side: Awww, bless his heart.
1 point

He was a good person with good purposes . He was a real patriot . In addition , Do not say bad things about died person . It is not right . Say good things about him even if he is enemy for you .

Side: Awww, bless his heart.
2 points

Personally I am glad this guy bit it! While I don really like anyone who is against the US in such an outspoken fashion (for no apparent reason), I really hated this dude. Well, you know the saying...good things come to those who wait! I waited and he died! I guess I got my good thing!

Side: Dirty mother f*cker.
iamdavidh(4816) Disputed
5 points

On the same trip, he also visited the Bronx in New York City, and during a speech delivered at a Bronx church on 17 September stated that, notwithstanding any grievances he may have with the Bush administration's foreign policy, he had "fallen in love with the soul of the people of the United States"

He was not and never was anti-US.

Conservative sites that you get your news from enjoyed demonizing him because he "preached for" (which is a good term for what he did), juggernauts like the U.S. taking a more active role in preventing world poverty and pollution.

He was also against governments enforcing pro-market policy, which your sources often like to call "socialist"

In reality though, not enforcing pro-market policy is closer to "free market" than anything supported by U.S. conservatives.

In his own country during his time as president more people learned to read, education improved, and poverty decreased.

Now, your sources call this socialism as well because he used government programs to accomplish this, and they note the drop in Venezuela's GDP as a result of said socialism. In reality though the Venezuela economy suffered no more or less then any "non-socialist" economy during the last years.

Was he a great president? Maybe not.

But the demonization of him by the right is completely unfounded.

Side: Awww, bless his heart.
2 points

You and I have our differences but I agree that he was an extremely brilliant person of power. Very uncorrupted and probably one of the best in South American continent for his time in charge.

Side: Awww, bless his heart.
ThePyg(6706) Disputed
1 point

Lol, he called himself a Socialist and claimed that his policies were socialist.

I will use the ever so famous, anti-socialist, conservative source...Wikipedia to point out how he has been unjustly criticized by the right.

Chávez gained a reputation as a price hawk in OPEC, pushing for stringent enforcement of production quotas and higher target oil prices. The current economic expansion began when the government got control over the national oil company in the first quarter of 2003

Lol, everyone was blaming Obama for higher oil prices. THE FOOLS!

But anyway, Venezuela basically finally started to improve their economic situation when they acted like a corporation. lulz.

Chávez's strategy in response to food shortages consisted mainly of increasing domestic production through nationalizing large parts of the food industry. The price ceilings increased the demand for basic foods while making it difficult for Venezuela to import goods causing increased reliance on domestic production. According to some commentators this policy may have increased shortages.

absolute socialism.

Chávez was strictly enforcing a price control policy, denouncing anyone who sold food products for higher prices as "speculators".[265] In January 2008, Chávez ordered the military to seize 750 tons of food that sellers were illegally trying to smuggle across the border to sell for higher prices than what was legal in Venezuela.[273] In February 2009, Chávez ordered the military to temporarily seize control of all the rice processing plants in the country and force them to produce at full capacity, which he claimed they had been avoiding in response to the price caps.

Militarist State Socialism.

In 2010, after the government nationalized the port at Puerto Cabello, more than 120,000 tons of food sat rotting at the port.[280] In May 2010, during a shortage of beef, at least 40 butchers were detained on charges of speculation for allegedly selling meat above the regulated price; some of them were held at a military base and later strip-searched by police.

Enemy of the small business man... socialism.

In 2010, Amnesty International criticized the Chávez administration for targeting critics following several politically motivated arrests.

Political prisoners.

Following Afiuni's arrest, several groups, including the United Nations, the Inter-American Commission on Human Rights, the Episcopal Conference of Venezuela, Human Rights Watch, the Law Society of England and Wales, the U.S. Department of State, and the European Union Parliament accused Chávez of "creating a climate of fear" among Venezuela's legal profession.[296][297][2][298][299][300][301][302] The European Parliament called it "an attack on the independence of the judiciary by the President of a nation, who should be its first guarantor".[303] A director of Human Rights Watch said, "Once again the Chávez government has demonstrated its fundamental disregard for the principle of judicial independence."[

Look at all those Conservative propagandists complaining about Chavez's not-so-corrupt manner of scaring his people into obeying his commands.

in 2008, Human Rights Watch criticized Chávez for engaging in "often discriminatory policies that have undercut journalists' freedom of expression."[283] Freedom House listed Venezuela's press as being "Not Free" in its 2011 Map of Press Freedom, noting that "[t]he gradual erosion of press freedom in Venezuela continued in 2010."[304] Reporters Without Borders criticized the Chávez administration for "steadily silencing its critics".[305] In the group's 2009 Press Freedom Index, Reporters Without Borders noted that "Venezuela is now among the region’s worst press freedom offenders."

Lol, one of the WORST when it comes to freedom of the press. I'm sure Reporters Without Borders is just some Koch Brothers conspiracy.

In 2006, Chávez announced that the terrestrial broadcast license for RCTV would not be renewed, due to its refusal to pay taxes and fines, and its alleged open support of the 2002 coup attempt against Chávez, and role in helping to instigate the oil strike in 2002–2003.[320] RCTV was transmitted via cable and satellite and was widely viewable in Venezuela until January 2010, when it was excluded by cable companies in response to an order of National Commission of Telecommunications.[321][322][323] The refusal to renew its terrestrial broadcast license was condemned by a multitude of international organizations, many of whom have claimed that the closure was politically motivated, and was intended to silence government critics.

More censorship. Support action against your government? Not under Chavez.

And I suppose ignoring what Conservatives would object to, there's a LOT MORE to object to of Chavez, including his Bush tactic of using Christ to further his tyrannical policies.

However, two things I do agree with is his opposition to "US Imperialism," and how he used Capitalist policies to trade with Iran and industrialize the nation.

But small tyrants are still tyrants, and opposing US Imperialism while oppressing your own people is just not admirable enough.

Side: Dirty mother f*cker.

I wonder if anyone ever called him Chubby Chavez ;)

Side: Dirty mother f*cker.
Jungelson(3955) Disputed
2 points

Should never dance on another mans grave. Someone doesn't like your country, so you hope he dies of cancer. See some people may get quite offended by that :)

He did a lot of good for his country, and personally believe Venezuela was better off with him. Now all we can expect is for the US to move in any colonise the place with their oil wells.

Side: Awww, bless his heart.
casper3912(1556) Disputed
1 point

Perhaps it has to do with the USA backed coup against him after he was democratically elected?

Side: Awww, bless his heart.
MadiAskar(23) Disputed
1 point

Nothing Without reasons does not occur . US policy is awful and cruel . Also , do not say bad things about died person . It is not right . Say good things about him even if he is enemy for you .

Side: Awww, bless his heart.
2 points

Whatever Joe.... you're still bitter I beat you to the Bin Laden death. ;)

Side: Dirty mother f*cker.

Don't remind me. The problem with being top dog around here is that everyone is looking to take you down a peg ;)

Side: Dirty mother f*cker.
Sitara(11075) Disputed
2 points

I bet you like being on top. ;)

Side: Awww, bless his heart.
1 point

Thankfully, they have a long way to go to catch up. Just keep going!

Side: Dirty mother f*cker.
1 point

You have a buffer... to take you down I have to go through PrayerFails first and he's always one step ahead of me. ;)

Side: Dirty mother f*cker.
Del1176(4975) Clarified
1 point

That was honestly one of the few deaths I have been genuinely happy to have known about.

Side: Awww, bless his heart.
Hellno(17724) Disputed
2 points

True, true... and I'll be happy to know about yours too.... What? Too harsh? I kid... I kid. ;)

Side: Awww, bless his heart.
2 points

Anyone who hates America deserves it

Side: Dirty mother f*cker.
Elvira(3441) Disputed
1 point

That's unfair. I can think of ten reasons to hate america in the time it took to post this.

Side: Awww, bless his heart.
bemagic15(530) Clarified
1 point

Yeah, but you need to support your country through good and bad times.

Side: Awww, bless his heart.

Any dictator who dies is just fine with me.---------------------------------------------

Side: Dirty mother f*cker.
0 points

Great day for the USA as far as foreign policy is concerned. One less outspoken, pro Cuban, pro Iranian asshole gone from this world. Lets go for the trifecta and get rid of the Castro boys.

Side: Dirty mother f*cker.
2 points

youre a fucking idiot if you think the usa will benefit from it...sure the elitist that run america will...but not the stupid fucking tax payers like you. youre just a stupid fucking slave waving a flag as if you are free

Side: Awww, bless his heart.
Scout143(652) Disputed
1 point

No, your the idiot believing that his death is bad for America. He was very hostile to the United States. His country and the United States had cold relations, all due to Chavez. Hopefully, with a new president we can heal things up. We can trade more, especially in oil, and actually start giving more aide to their poor. Frankly, I'm relieved he is dead. If you believe it will hurt the taxpayer, show me.

Side: Dirty mother f*cker.
kozlov(1754) Disputed
2 points

As US foreign policy is concerned, it may be a good day. I take it you care nothing about the Venezuelan people?

Side: Awww, bless his heart.