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Just your typical Irish advert Was not expecting that.
Debate Score:76
Arguments:85
Total Votes:77
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WTF Ireland?

Just your typical Irish advert

Side Score: 37
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Was not expecting that.

Side Score: 39
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Irish... Their disputed territory Northern Ireland is the European terrorist capital of the world isn't it still?

Side: Just your typical Irish advert
warrior(1854) Disputed
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No that would be the middle east. Given that there are way more terrorists there than in northern Ireland.

Side: Was not expecting that.
DevinSeay(1120) Disputed
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I said European not world.

Side: Just your typical Irish advert
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The commercial seems like a waste of time. Speeding has only killed a classroom of kids in over a decade? Is that really something significant in Ireland?

Side: Was not expecting that.
Coldfire(1014) Disputed
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Speeding has only killed a classroom of kids in over a decade? Is that really something significant in Ireland?

lol, only a classroom of kids?

While I don’t buy into persuasive propaganda like this commercial, I still consider even one loss of life due to negligent inconsiderate behavior is one too many. I would consider a classroom of kids in the past century a significant issue for any country.

Side: Just your typical Irish advert

There are 7.1 Billion people on the planet. A classroom full of kids is just a drop in the bucket, mathematically speaking ;)

Side: Just your typical Irish advert
Cartman(18192) Disputed
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Then you will never fix anything important. You think preventing .008 child deaths a day is significant enough to make a commercial about?

Side: Was not expecting that.
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Ireland has an annual death rate of 6.41 deaths/1000 population. Tie that in with a 2012 census population of ~4.589 million, and thats a bit over 29,000 deaths per year. That's nearly 300,000 dead in a decade.

While I'm not suggesting that the deaths of children should be dismissed out of hand by any means... I'm not certain what the actual figure from the video is, as I can't watch it at work, so I'm going with the average class size in Ireland of 24. This represents 0.008% of deaths over a decade.

And we want to solve this problem with education? Compare obesity.

Obesity is considered a significant factor in roughly 2000 deaths in Ireland per year, with the number increasing slowly but steadily. This represents another death factor that we would primarily address with education. Despite education, the rate is gradually increasing.

Even with strict gun control laws in the UK, more people die by firearm per year than this particular issue killed over the course of a decade.

I don't believe this figure represents something that can be addressed by either legislation or education- it's statistical noise. I know it's unfortunate that the noise in this case is children- that places more emphasis on it in our minds.

We can't legislate or educate negligence away; I don't really see any way to reduce this count further through either or even both avenues. If we feel compelled to act because of this, we need a better option- perhaps a technological approach? Internetworked self-driving cars could potentially fix this issue- not perfectly, mind you, but I generally find that computers stick to their programming more reliably than humans stick to rules.

Side: Was not expecting that.
Atrag(5556) Disputed
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There are only 4.5 million people in the Republic of Ireland.

Side: Just your typical Irish advert
Cartman(18192) Disputed
1 point

Regardless of the population, it is only .008 children dead per day.

Side: Was not expecting that.
Jace(5164) Clarified
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To be fair... I am sure it is with a bunch of commercials selling crisps and beer. Adverts are not particularly renowned for their significance.

Side: Just your typical Irish advert
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It's weird because Coldfire disagreed with me but admitted the commercial is worthless.

Even with commercials lacking significance I think we could have commercials discussing significant issues.

Side: Was not expecting that.