Jeffreyone's Waterfall
And in the cases of septuplet???.....................
FREE WILL.
You're in the middle of six different pathways. at every end of each God knows what is there and what you faced to get there.
He has a sign board on his maybe path 3. still not compulsory to follow his. you chose a different one, that is free will, at the end you got swallowed by a crocodile, yes God is still omniscience, present and potent.
Terrorists should be OK blowing up innocent women and children unless God is NOT Allah.
You should read the qualities used to describe Allah in the Qur'an. It is totally different from the christian God.
Islam is a false religion.
Example:
003:054 Pickthal
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And they (the disbelievers) schemed, and Allah schemed (against them): and Allah is the best of schemers.
Definition of scheme:
verb
1.
make plans, especially in a devious way or with intent to do something illegal or wrong.
"he schemed to bring about the collapse of the government"
synonyms: plot, hatch a plot, conspire, intrigue, connive, maneuver, plan
"he schemed to bring about the collapse of the government"
Scheming is most similar to deceit.
And the bible says Satan is the Father of all liars.
Allah is said to be the best schemer...
Guess who Allah is;
It looks like you were trying to say your mama did not exist in your life because she run from ya papa.
You couldn't find her on twitter or facebook. She is too proud and obsessed with herself so a megalomaniac.
Told papa. Do not have photos/images of other women not even when you dream.
Have no other woman before me.
And when you call me baby(my name) make sure i am the only one....
but he was just doing a free favor....and you thank him with a slap?
No, doing a favor is actually giving the information to people that find it useful, not saying something on a random late night radio show. However, since he's a fraud, I personally don't think he would be liable.
How do i know you know but denying?
This question doesn't make sense
Your ignorance is not established as far as am concerned.
I'm not ignorant as to who satan is claimed to be, I simply don't believe it's real.
But the guy has no degree.
What difference does that make?
What difference would it make if he gave the credit to an octopus.
You're asking me? It really makes no difference to me, but at least there's evidence octopuses exist.
I don't know if it's the catholics who teach it but my bible and church never taught me God is in the sky.
Perhaps not literally in the sky, but it does teach you God exists which is just as wrong.
I will never forgive myself i impossibly be an atheist(fuckwit, bigot, idiot).
Again, this sentence doesn't make sense, but are you suggesting atheists are bigots? Do you not understand the purpose of this debate at all? It's the religious that have issues with the LGBT community, making you the bigot.
People almost always have a problem with what i post on CD, but am being denied the right to do same?really?
I'm not denying you the right of posting anything, I'm simply stating I've lost interest in where you've taken it. When it comes down to it, though I know how most con artists work, no I can't explain exactly how the radio host may have done it; but this is the problem most religious people have: they can't accept "I don't know" as an answer. Just because I don't know doesn't mean it's god, that's simply an argument from ignorance. There was once a time we didn't understand how lightning worked and people attributed it to a god; but now we do understand it and there's nothing supernatural about it. Before you can even claim what he did was supernatural and that it was from God, you must first demonstrate that both the supernatural and God even exist. If you offer no evidence to their existence, how could it be possible that God is responsible for it?
CASE CLOSED.🔨🔨🔨
Before you find(80%) you must be looking for, but if you say to yourself such a thing cannot possibly exist, then you won't even acknowledge the little signs and clues.
The chinese have accepted (it) and believe in the possibility of such things you call superstitious and impossible existing and therefore are advanced in that knowledge than the other parts of the world(scientifically).
One of the best of materials used to capture such beings is mercury.
A building blended with mercury can be penetrated in by an odd creature but the same method cannot be used to go out of the building, the creature would have to use the door like a human would.
They are therefore also bound by the laws of nature and are discoverable.
But i tell you, the world minus Asia, and Africa will take the U.S.A, Europe and Russia 500+ years to make this discovery.
You're a despicable human being!
Ok.
Only the government has the capability of warning people? If you see a person is about to get injured do you stay quiet because you don't work for the government?
You suggested some punishment for predicting at the wrong time,
but he was just doing a free favor....and you thank him with a slap?
But they know their boss exists. This is a ridiculous comparison.
How do i know you know but denying?
Your ignorance is not established as far as am concerned.
Perhaps, but it's...
But the guy has no degree.
Makes it easier for the gullible like you to believe it.\
What difference would it make if he gave the credit to an octopus.
Given the fact you're wrong
Come on! You proved me right not long ago.....
Good enough at least for you.
So now you're an atheist?
I don't know if it's the catholics who teach it but my bible and church never taught me God is in the sky.
I will never forgive myself i impossibly be an atheist(fuckwit, bigot, idiot).
I'm interested for as long as the discussion remains relevant to the topic. You have skewed this so far away from anything regarding the LGBT community
I was attracted by your lines not the topic. And it takes us to a different dimension.
People almost always have a problem with what i post on CD, but am being denied the right to do same?really?
Here's an article that was found among others by doing a quick search
http://www.gbcghana.com/1.8693124
1. Tell me how many roads in the world have no record of accidents.
2.The accident you're referencing was close not actually there.
3. It was once and there are roads with several.
4.He didn't say the tragedy was going to happen on the road but rather, he said a soul among the students had been sold to the spirit that inhabits the waterfall, so it was best to avoid that path or reschedule for another day.(this indicates specific day, he did mention the time(local dialect)).
he should be held liable for not making the effort to actually tell anybody who could actually do something about it instead of making some claim on a late night radio show.
Does he work for the government?
Nope, I don't believe satan exists
Some have never seen the face of their bosses.its normal
con artist in your video made a guess.
It will take a lot of wit to guess that.
Why give the credit to God?
Seriously? If that were true we wouldn't even be discussing this and I'd be on your side of this superstitious nonsense.
You are not scared of being fooled but of the possibility of it being true, which could damage your head.
So a pointless, waste of time...thanks
Do you not use a plastic skeleton before you move a real bones?
Plus i elaborated explicitly but you ignored it....
Where's your PhD? Besides, you believe in a man in the sky and you want to try to explain psychology?
In psychology, am a beginner, but i did a presentation and it went well.....good enough for you.......
A man in the sky? Says who?Your priest?
Gotta admit, with the bizarre tangents you keep taking I'm getting bored of this
If anyone should be bored or annoyed, should be me and even back dating it.
Again, you proved me right..."no sense of delight".....you are not as happy as you claim....now it is debatable...(not interested though)
As I stated before, in his "prophecy" he said if the school were to still take the trip to at least avoid the main Kintampo road. Again, his claim was that tragedy would happen on the road, and a quick Google search shows just how common accidents occur in that particular area making the chances of such a tragedy quite likely.
Ah what nonsense are you saying?
That accidents regularly happen on that road says who?
Even so, did he talk about a waterfall or road. And about this you still challenge me about my language on what he said. What nonsense?
You are not an atheist, you work for satan.
I don't know about where you are, but teen suicide and other deaths are not exactly uncommon here
You are not in my country and you can't tell me what is not rare or is here.
What calculation? He makes a "prediction" that is just vague enough to have a good chance of coming true. That's how all of these con artists work, but there's no mathematical formula for it.
By this you imply they are the most intelligent people in the world.
NASA, or weather forecasters calculate before they predict.
But why would they give the credit to God?
Nope, don't need to. People are just as easily fooled in person as they are from video.
People like you?
You claim the video wasn't true which just goes to show how gullible people can be.
Ah.....how many times should i say that was for just demonstration?
Its like an experiment
How can you sense anything from just words but no tone? Besides that, it isn't up for debate since you can't argue it.
It is coming from your brain.
Psychology.
Actually he did. Look elsewhere and you can find english transcriptions of it and he does specifically state all the children would die. He also did not specify a time or date, he simply stated a school class is planning a trip and they need to cancel it otherwise they would die AND if they were to proceed with it, to at least avoid the specific road, implying it wasn't the waterfall that was the peril.
Are you trying to translate my own native language to me?
Did you hear what he said on radio before the event?
I never suggested this and how dare you suggest otherwise. My point is I don't believe in prophecy and this guy is nothing more than a con artist.
So then what do you mean by he said all will die but not all died? He shouldn't have cautioned because it was 18?
You don't believe in prophecies but there are a few more of irrefutable ones i add.....
Like a prophet at the beginning of the year prophesied a lot of youth's suicides and other deaths....
Just between february 25 and March 18, 3 students of three different universities(here) commited suicide, plus another at home with her mum.
I have links....Just not necessary.
This isn't proof of anything.
Then derive the formula for his calculation.
This video isn't proof of anything. Why should I even believe this video to be authentic?
You can take a flight to the church to see more.
So if this video was a scam it just goes to show how gullible religious people can be.
I don't know how you understood it but from this i can tell how poor your comprehension skill is.
On the contrary, I greatly enjoy religious debates.
There is zero sense of delight in your words.
My questions are worded as such because when you actually look at the text without the blinders of belief and faith, the stories are actually quite absurd.
But at least it should go in line with the original story right?.....
You always bring your own new story on board.........
Which i know nothing of...so annoying.
Oh boy, a list of irrelevant articles and videos. Yay.
Ah
Also, not all of the children died, only some.
well, he never said everyone will die ,did he?
And so because it isn't all of them who died, he shouldn't have said anything?
18 People dying at least doesn't call for a prophecy?
18 Lives is worthless to you?
You were expecting about 50 people before he warned?
and gave no specific time frame or location.
He did, he mentioned the day and even the exact time on radio but you don't understand the language.
If that's the case, this would imply the children
There is no need for implication here, just take his words as they are, and he did mention the waterfall, stop editing it, do you work for the devil...?
He predicted a week before the event and it was shared all over social media that no one should go to the waterfall, to be precise and on that particular day, and even added the time it will happen if he was disobeyed............
There is a world popular journalist, even employed by American secret agencies before, from Ghana, who followed up on the prophesy and got videos of the incident,
He even charged them to go on a different day but they ignored him......
What am trying to prove is God exists, and he warns.
So adam and eve were warned the same about the forbidden fruit and they went ahead to disrespect God and faced the consequences just like in the waterfall incidence.
Don't blame man's disobedience on God when he explicity warns prior to disasters which could have been prevented by heeding to his advice.
What's the point of this?
It isn't material logic and proves the existence of impossibilities that questions your stand as an atheist(someone who doesn't believe in the existence of such things).
Not English so I have no idea what's going on. I didn't watch all 34 minutes of it, but did skip around and nothing happened. What's the point? ignored it.
Convenient covering of the actual event. You actually believe this crap?
It's just a demonstration before i present my case , though it's not real.....
But, those are the kind of people here with greed for money(the real ones).
Most of the high rate of African scams are not natural......
Because as aware as you are, you could still be scammed....why?(not natural)....
There is a book still in process about it...
A man has been sent to live among scammers for a while who are aware of his purpose there.
And the stories coming out will be shocking to you as an atheist.
It will make you feel stupid as an atheist(not because you don't worship idols or God, but for denying their existence).
Because scammers are usually school drop outs who are not supposed to be intelligent than their victims who are mostly rich business men, professors and intellects....
But then, it happens everyday at an increasing rate, how?.....
Coming soon.
You accuse me of losing focus and then paste some
Oh come on! you should know by now that you always are hysterical, paranoid and complaining when you talk about God, which transcends into losing focus to even make quality arguments with non bias and logical questions.
Your most annoying questions are the ones about adam and eve.
Its as if you never owned or borrowed a bible to even read it....
They are questions a never been christian should be asking(example Nagpal, but even he doesn't ask those kind of questions(maybe lack of knowledge about it....which i could walk him through))...
It bores me to the head when You ask those questions and i choose to ignore them or answer(partially) later when am calmed……
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The last link, though the pastor really did it, he is not of God
Whether I'm one of the three or there were three additional people is unclear, but if you had issues with each of us, it would seem you are the one that just doesn't get it.
Poor comprehension.
If something was dissolved, it means there was a final agreement.
Plus you 4, i started with them about the same time as i did with you.....i was done with them 5days ago......but here you are still....
If I ask what 2+2 is and you answer red, there's more discussion to be had.
There have been no such instance...at least not my side....
It's more like 2+2 when i say 4 and you're like "oops , + 0.456, so your answer is wrong".....
these aren't the only uses for hydrogen or oxygen, which it seems you believe to be the case.
This is where you lose focus.
You just admitted it.
As long as the focus or motive is to produce water, any other uses of hydrogen or oxygen doesn't exist ........stay focused.....
I take it as you didn't take my suggestion so this is officially over.....
Unless you have a better offer such as a life time job.....then i would tolerate your inconsistencies, lack of focus and deviations.....at least the pay compensates the headache...
It seems you’re lost in this conversation and now you’re just trying to talk your way out of it.
First of all, i admit i deviated once with a line(your fault)
On the other hand, you have deviated seven times, where i was supposed cancel out such questions, but i stupidly played along thinking it will get better but still the same.
After i have answered a question which leaves no room for anymore(about it), you somehow manage to generate a senseless question from the already answered and blend it with an unrelated(extreme deviation) issue and you put it forward as a new question.
The fact that one asks plenty questions doesn't mean they are sensible.
The focus is to produce water, which is H2O..........
But all of a sudden i see H2 +O +K(potassium/unrelated)= ??(it doesn't make sense considering the fact that we intend to produce just water)
That is how you've been playing your game, you have been insisting senseless questions......
And i managed to answer according to unrelated blending......then you again remind me like "i thought we were producing water?".........
Whenever i am approached with a question, the size of the content reduces in less than 48hrs......gradually and it finanlly diminishes.....but with you it's the opposite, it keeps enlarging because you keep deviating and blending with the unrelated.
It seems you're a bigot who doesn't want to accept H2+O produces water but for a reason (i insist which you deny) we will spend eternity in the lab......
After all you're not the smartest person i have spoken to recently,
Just last week i had similar encounters from three people and the conversation was dissolved amicably(which i rarely do but i gave them a chance) in just two days.
I constantly alerted them on their deviations but with you, i condoned...........
I try to make sense outta ya senseless(deviations & unrelated blends) questions.
I have lost interest already.....
But if you insist, start from the beginning where i will scrutinize and omit your deviations and bring some sense in your questioning...cos as far as i know no water has been produced.....
I think i will ignore you now....................................
Jeffrey
first time you ever spelt it right.... i wonder how long it took you to learn how to spell yours...probably grade 8...i won't be shocked
you told me to go look at all the great arguments you make and all the up votes you get ?
the adjective you chipped in very exaggerating and on my side extremely annoying.
no body is a fool here Dermot. you're cunning, everyone sees it. to hell with you
It's extremely amusing the butt kicking you're taking I almost feel sorry for you
huh?
Jeffrey
first time you ever spelt it right.... i wonder how long it took you to learn how to spell yours...probably grade 8...i won't be shocked
you told me to go look at all the great arguments you make and all the up votes you get ?
the adjective you chipped in very exaggerating and on my side extremely annoying.
no body is a fool here Dermot. you're cunning, everyone sees it. to hell with you
It's extremely amusing the butt kicking you're taking I almost feel sorry for you
huh?
know it's impossible for a Christian to believe someone might not actually believe your nonsense, but I simply don't.
Believe or not is another for a different day.
My focus was on a fake excuse.
Nvm Case closed.
Arguably Mary, but my point wasn't so much the God raped, but that he condoned it. In Deuteronomy God even gives clear permission to keep the women of the cities they fight. It also instructs if a man is caught raping a woman he simply needs to pay the father and marry the woman.
You deviated at first, i pampered and now see where we are.
The acts of man instead of the acts of God himself.
Difference God(above the law), men(under the law)
And yes following your deviation,
It became not a sin at that moment only for particular reason by the command of God.
He is the Judge and law.
A country sentences people to death which is all the same murder, but the reason makes it right according to the law or country, so those who shoot are not even punished But doesn't give right to people at home to be shooting people by heart or of gutts, ........
The Bible even says(those days) gays should be killed immediately when caught and their blood will be on their own heads.
People are therefore excused by the law(God).
It doesn't mean condoning.
REASON is what determines what is right or wrong.
People donate for the wrong reasons, people steal for the right reasons(ex. Child dying in the hospital not because they felt like it)
And can be excused if well proven before the law.
It isn't called condoning.
Women kill to protect their kids from drunk husbands, if the law excuses it, it is for reason not condoning.
You stated every action of God's becomes law, not man. Get your story straight
If so, then why did you relate a man's rape to God, and concluding it to law then, when it wasn't Him in the action.
Get your questions straight.
Okay, where can it be presented?
Real world. Not a debate site.
You will need real evidence with all your senses. And when you speak about it, you will be known as the newly mad man on loose.
t's just as much nonsense as your god
I will ignore that. You will answer later, not to me.
There is material evidence for the existence of many men,
Who is looking for those men? At least in this argument?
what you cannot do is prove why this one is any different
At least you proved something, you lack focus.
We are examining beats by dre and you deviate to talk about JBL
, SONY etc which is absolutely(undeniable) irrelevant to what is being discussed.
Have you ever actually read the Bible?
As you can see, am defending a part of it(about jesus)....how do you defend what you don't know
A red herring. I've made it known in many debates on this site I was a proud Christian for over 30 years, and I still own many Bibles. You did however, fail to address my statement.
I know people who own cars but have never driven it or don't know anything about how a car.(engines, acceleration, etc)
So about owning plenty bibles isn't a valid argument or else you wouldn't be asking such a silly question. Untill you admit you never had s bible, i won't address that.
Of the 107 billion people that ever lived, only 7 billion are alive today.
So? Ok i see it down there.........
We don't have the bones of all 100 billion dead people so why is it surprising we don't have his.
What You search is what you find.
You google dog and you expect to find elephant?
That is an illogical question.
If you don't have proper questions, dont force it.
Also, how would you determine with absolute certainty they even were his if you found them?
You still distrust science?
Okay so what language do you speak now?
Even if he did flee he still would have eventually died,
Yes, maybe.
But let's stick to the story.
so this is a pointless argument
Yes you raised it. Ask proper questions.
This sentence doesn't make any sense, but kicking someone out is entirely different from abandonment.
Actually, it's entirely the same. They were entirely kicked out of the garden.(i call it abandoning)
You never even addressed the point, much less "destroyed" it.
You don't know when a question becomes usesless,huh?
Learn to let go.....
I don't even understand what you said.
Find the word creating the relationship(the verb) between your question and my reply......
Another baseless statement.
A continuation.....
Again, you have to actually address a statement to make the claim. Unfortunately for you there is plenty of archeological evidence supporting human life long before the timeframe of Adam and Eve.
Now proof for jesus becomes adam and eve? That for a different time.
Pls stay focused.
Why? The creation account suggests God merely spoke the universe into existence, why must there be a process to simply remove a contamination?
Even so, the universe wasn't created in just a day.....ah, have you ever had a biblee.?
Let's say I was at a restaurant and my server brought over my drink. Unknown to me, my drink had been poisoned, but a man across the room had watched it happen, however decided not to tell me. Are you suggesting the witness was a gentleman because I didn't first ask him if it was poisoned?
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This is why i keep asking if you ever had a bible when i see such silly questions from you.....
When God clearly pointed out to them that the fruit was bad for their healthy and yet they went for it.
They could eat of many others bit they chose the only they were warned from.
At a certain point, i wanted to stop replying to the abundant out pour of your bitterness with the excuse of God's non existence (big fat lie, the real truth dwells within you and don't wanna get exposed so then you adopt a cover which is generally used) but i kept on entertaining it.
You're bitter and find negativety in everything no matter how impossible, to uphold the pride of your bitterness.
You're are just fooling me with your excuse....got me arguing in the wrong direction and it's easier for you with the real reason unexposed(hidden from us).
Outlookers think you're making a point meanwhile you just manifesting your bitterness with your back(excuse) facing us instead of your face(the real reason) where its turn red.
If face to face, i could provoke you to outburst the truth about your bitterness.
By your words then rape, slavery and genocide (including the death of infants) are moral acts. After all, "every action he takes becomes law."
Who did God rape?
Which man's action became law?
Most convenient, but without evidence there's no reason to believe.
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Why not believe in unicorns or the flying spaghetti monster?
What nonsense? Spaghetti monster?
compared to a man there is material evidence for his existence?
Not true, that's why people were responsible for their own sacrifice. However, if you're suggesting it didn't matter and they were heading to hell, this means god offered no way to save those that lived prior to Jesus. Another reason he is immoral and unworthy of worship.
Did you ever legally own a bible?
Probably wasn't legal, you had to skim through quickly before you got caught....so missed certain vital points...i don't blame you being atheist.....
There may be
Now you doubt science too?
So what language do you speak at all?
but this does not prove any supernatural powers.
Then at least i want some remaining particles of his bones.
It's because he ressurected(supernatural) the couldn't find it.
If he didn't his bones would have been easily discovered and recoverd like peter's as he was the main Icon.
If you insist otherwise, you therefore pressume jesus never died(from brutal beatings) and probably fled, went missing.
The same god of unconditional love abandoned his creation? You're not helping your case of him being worthy worship.
Yeah right, He woke up oneday, complained he had a nightmare and for that reason he kicked them out.
Oh what a wicked God/father.
You can't simply assert this being invalid with no reason.
It was a scenario backing up a point, if point gets destroyed, scenario invalid.
You misunderstood me. I'm not referring to the rules he gave us to follow, but that he sent himself to die because of his own rule requiring a sacrifice to be made.
You'd call the cops.
When was that?are you prophesying.
HALLELUYAH!!
Neither does your god
Understanding is not a certificate(PHD) for Him, He just is.
Those archaeologists you mentioned earlier
Invalid.
God - being all powerful - could simply remove the contamination. Also, this seems like an odd comparison. If you were working with this same contaminated solution, your response would be to kill yourself? Seems a bit extreme.
Simple doesn't mean zero process.
Plus He asks for permission first. A real gentleman.
Not true. Consider how many different tribes of people out there, who have never heard of your god,
Faith comes by hearing not law.
The law is created with the soul by default.
That is why it is the soul that goes to hell.
That is why there is conviction(without anyone judging you)
Whenever you sin, your soul falls sick which you feel as conviction....
But if you keep ignoring it, it gets used to it(mutation).
Those are judged by works since it's not their fault they never heard(faith)
Therefore, they will recieve equally the repercurssion of their actions as long as it is not related to faith.
It could be blessing or curse.
It's like you skimmed through and didn't see the sense i made with the bible verse. It the best answer for the question.
it shows just how immoral this god is if he existed
Immorality can be associated with someone under laws or rules.
God created the laws.
The law is one of his creations meant to bind his other creations(plants, humans, animals~physics, chemistry and the unmeasurable ones such as conviction,senses~benevolence, etc) not Him.
He is bound by no law. So to describe him as immoral doesn't make sense.
He existed before the law.
Every action he takes becomes law.
and not worthy of worship
By now you should know he is Holy and more than worthy of worship..........His system is not run by blood.....even angels
And
FYI: he created man just like him until man fell short of His glory.
despite having no evidence
The format of the evidence cannot be presented here.
tortured simply because you didn't believe;
Wrongly stated. The whole world was already going to hell after until christ came. He sent christ.
Plus he doesn't send anyone to hell, he just prevents you from entering heaven(i do not know you), and the demons take care of the rest(their share~you).
this according to an old book filled with stories of events that are contrary to scientific evidence,
Archaelogy and history proves the existence of christ.
So what are you saying.
all for the purpose of explaining how god sent himself as a sacrifice to die for us to save us from himself because of the rules he put in place.
Invalid. God abandoned man in the first place.....till He reconsidered....after his intial anger calmed....also couldn't stand whom he had handed us over to.
That's right, he sent himself to die because of his own rules
Then why is it that even today you still would go to heaven for breaking his rules.
Remember Adam and Eve had only on rule protecting them till they broke it.
Man no more had rules untill after his reconsideration...
You're sitting at home with your family and you hear a knock at the door
knock knock
You: "Who is it?"
Stranger: "My name is Chuck, you need to let me in!"
You: "And why would I do that?"
Chuck: "I'm here to save you!"
You: "Save me from what?"
Chuck: "Me"
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You'd call the cops.
Invalid.
Could he have simply forgiven without the need for sacrifice?
You don't understand holiness do you, ......
Try ignoring a contaminated chemical preparation(solution) and go ahead to use it.
Adam and Eve (who interestingly lived about 150,000 years after the first homo sapiens had already emerged) - were placed in a garden with Satan
Says who.
Trial and error? Some perfect god
What is the error?
If you successfully create a robot(no error) and after it serving you for a thousand years becomes proud of its looks and abilities, decided to take your position but failed,
Identify the error.
would contend there are millions - if not more - who have never heard of God or Jesus and are in the midst of great suffering. If your god is allowing them to suffer for disobeying rules they were never told, how is that their fault?
Every soul knows the law of God.
Even if they don't know of the God.
Romans 2:13-16New International Version (NIV)
13 For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God’s sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous. 14 (Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law. 15 They show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts sometimes accusing them and at other times even defending them.) 16 This will take place on the day when God judges people’s secrets through Jesus Christ, as my gospel declares.
I also question if the punishment fits the crime. For the simple matter of not believing
You said you were a christian before ,but was never told hell wasn't created for man?
Hell existed even before Adam or lucifer were created.
Angels were created out of brimestone from hell fire.
After they were sacked from heaven, it became their last home left.
Hell fire doesn't hurt angels or demons.
But after adam sinned, he lost his priviledge to enter heaven just like the fallen angels.
He had to stay on earth his last hope of a home.
But unfortunately, unlike the angels, God said Adams body will return to the dust(of earth).....death...
With the soul remaining(immortal).
Still cannot enter heaven.
He disowned him.
For adam had now become too filthy to enter heaven or near God.
Fallen short of the Glory.
Satan on the other hand already hated man from the first day he was created automatically because he looked like God and actually a son of his enemy.
It is logical that when your father disowns you, his enemy will take all pleasure of taking care of you very welll. Lmao
So, man became vulnerable and satan decided to share his home with Adam and his descendants.
The only problem is the condition of his home is not suitable for our nature.....plus his buddies will be partying with us at his home day and night with forks in our asses while we fry like sausages. Very fun right?
But then your love for your child doesn't die just because you disowned for being disappointing.
Whenever a fork pireced a soul, God felt the pain more and couldn't stand the mockery anymore so sent himself as his son to deliver us from evil.
It's like you get annoyed with your Gf and you pushed her outta ya car so she walks home and you later found out she was molested by some rascals who offered her a lift.
Not what you wanted right? So you will still feel remorseful or guilty.
So hell wasn't a punishment in the first place. It was actually like a workshop for God.
But a home to the products(Angels and demons).
And they are offering accommodation to guests.
Therefore hell is a choice.
By the way jesus christ is also offering accommodation in heaven.
A few formalities.(fill the forms with just your name, no email or password).
Jesus only came to describe the difference between his offer and lucifer's.
And now y'all blame him for lucifer's offer.......as if he hasn't given an alternative.
If you sin unrepentantly, your father is satan, and he will reward you with packages from hell such as cancer etc.
And if you keep on excelling he would just get you a free apartment in hell.
He is not wicked, That's all he has.
Same rules applies to the second offer. Jesus's.....and there is no mediocrity here....serious business.
Now your choice.
But you're atheist you chose not to choose anyone, meaning you will be chosen then by someone i know.......
All at the end.
Whenever you talk about religion you are talking about your social life? Why?
Religion is in the society therefore a social subject which could be discussed by anyone(member or not). Due to some amount of knowledge people have about it.
So i can talk like you's(non members) but still as a member, i must defend it against the haters and those who intend to give it a bad name.
Talking about it(which is easily done by everyone even atheists and hindus(shockingly)) again, is different from being involved.
And no one discusses the internal affairs of his/her cult to anyone unless a fellow member.
Even within a cult, there are some secrets a member may not know of the other.
So i owe me talking about my personal relationship with God to no body.
Even pastors may teach or guide you to the way but even they don't have the right to get involved.
Salvation is seeked individually.
It's with you and christ/God not with the public, pastors or the people you think are looking at you that you want to please.
A christian may willing share a little bit about their experience with God to other members as a testimony of motivation when you see a brethen trippin'(going through hard times and tormented psychologically).
So that is not for a show off on a debate site, especially where you clash with muslims, hindus, atheists,......
There are businessmen here and you cannot force them to tell you how much they make and by what means or with who, if you don't work with them as colleagues, you will never know about their relationships with their customers........unless public business rumours about their profession.........
LIKE RELIGION.
I speak like an ordinary person with different tags on my shirt(religion, politics, etc) which projects opinions from different perspectives.
I don't put squares in circles.
Ah, not enough innocent people have suffered yet?
Suffered for disobedience and leaving them at the satan's mercy(he has none).
Greed,Gay,Selfishness,Abortion, Homocide,incest, etc= Pain(in any form).
It makes you vulnerable.
Actually a masochist derives pleasure from pain, so the pain still exists.
To the audience it's pain, to actor its unimaginable pleasure.(different perspectives)
One's meat is another man's poisoin.
It's about what am feeling not what you are thinking.
People find more pleasure in death than living so they commit suicide.
Bullshit. You have never once talked about your relationship with God
Do i owe you that?
You only ever talk about your relationship with man.
You should realise, that besides religion(belief/God relationship), i also have a social life of ....ex. Philosophies, politics, profession, talent, experiences etc.
I am not a programmed (100%)
religious robot.
I only talk about God relationship with fellow christians.
Politics among those who wish to engage in.
Experiences with those who too are willing to listen or share theirs.
Exhibit talent when the ocassion demands.
Profession has its arena and it's all serious business.(student profession still yet)
Philoso....................
I don't put squares in circles.
You prove that Christianity has nothing to do with God.
Prove? Efficacy not feasible
