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Humans Have Evolved Not To Exercise

Exercise itself stands against two million years of human evolution screaming, “Don’t do it!”

http://harvardmagazine.com/2016/09/born-to-rest

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IT'S JUST NOT NATURAL, PEOPLE!!! ;)

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We have adapted to need exercise, since we have "evolved" to not have physical activity. But the body still needs it, especially with our junk food and the junk in our foods.

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Yes, the body still needs it... because the flesh is weak ;)

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Once again your headline is contradictory to the true gist of the article you refer to.

Nowhere in the article does it claim--and indeed, nowhere in ANY study of Evolution of Humans has it been found--that we homo sapiens have evolved "not to exercise."

Rather, the main thrust of the article is that back in our hunter-gatherer days, we did not exercise for fun and recreation as we do now. Nor did we do it to stay fit. The reason for this is very simple of course. Our diets back then were so mucgh healthier and we already brined so many calories just surviving that recreational exercise was totally unneeded.

An exerpt from the article............

..."human evolution has been a story of adaptations that enhance running ability: shorter toes and heel bones, and the ability to cool off through sweating, for example. He’s drawn attention to human prowess in persistence hunting, rarely practiced today, in which small bands of hunters chase animals until they collapse of heat exhaustion."

See what I said? We ARE running and athletic animals by nature. We have lost this trait--or at least most of us have--over the past decades due to laziness, modern technology, and a shitty diet filled with HFCS and simple carbohydrates.

Now then....this is where in the article the author explains about how back then when we hunted we did not need recreational exercise. This is NOT the same as saying we evolved not to exercise, as you tried to say in your header.....

"But Lieberman, Lerner professor of biological sciences, says that humans have also been selected to exercise only as much as they must to survive. The ancestors of modern humans lived as hunter-gatherers. In this subsistence lifestyle, food was often scarce, so resting was key to conserving energy for survival and reproduction.

“No hunter-gatherer goes out for a jog, just for the sake of it.....They go out to forage, they go out to work, but anything else would be unwise, not to mention maladaptive” in calorie-restricted environments."

See? All this article claims is that back when we were far more active and ate better we were also healthier and fitter. So no recreational exercise was needed. Today is of course a drastically different scenario, amigo.

Look.....A full forty percent of women in America are OBESE!! And one-third of men are. And...this is the real ass-kicker: Almost one out of FIVE kids is obese. Not just overweight, mind you, but OBESE... Which means they are more than 20 lbs overweight.

Sorry to bust you up like this and you probably think I am a nit-picker, but as a Biologist AND a lifelong athlete, you are treading smack dab in the middle of my fields of passion.

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Ha! I made you read the article and give me the cliff notes ;)

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My pleasure....it's how I roll.

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Humans haven't evolved since we became 'humans'. After neanderthals we evolved into a new species and then stayed as we are.

The only form of evolution humans have had is that we are creating new races via mixed race couples.

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SlapShot(2608) Disputed
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Are you serious? You really want to dispute me on Evolution?

Wow.

Listen up and learn....

When I say "humans" I am using the layman's term for what we call homo sapiens. And those neanderthals you mentioned were of our same species. That is, they too shared the same exact common ancestors we did before breaking off from that lineage about 6 MYA.

Neanderthals ARE (well, were) homo sapiens. Their name ius simply a connotation of their region of origin, and where we first met-up with them: The Neander River Valley Region in Western Europe.

We ran into them there about 50,000 years ago after we both exited Eastern-Central Africa. They got out a bit earlier than did we.

As far as still evolving. We are! Evolution is a primary mechanation of ALL things living. Plants too. You just don't see the process because it moves a glacial speed. For example, you gotta back about 50,000 years before you could find a homo sapien--which we evolved into directly from homo habilis--that was noticeably physiologically different than you.

That's right....the changes between now and then are mostly cosmetic. We are a bit taller; have less body hair; less of a pronounced sub-orbital ridge, and less muscular. But, say, a surgeon operating on a 50,000 y.o. homo sapien and you would find no discernible difference among your organs.

So yeah....and if you go back, say, 10,000 years? Well, the evolution is very slight. But there are some things you can notice. Most are cosmetic . And This is 10,000 years before Jesus! That's 200 generations or more! And not a speck of difference. Hardly.

And you think you're gonna see a change during your short-ass life? LOL. Nope...doesn't work that way.

But we do continue to evolve on a cellular level. And when that first new significant and useful genetic mutation comes along that proves useful to us...say a more padded ass for all the sitting most people do...or more flexible thumbs for their endless texting..then you can bet that through the course of selective inheritance that trait will in time become not only noticed, but the new "norm."

But that will take at least a few dozen generations. You'll be long gone, amigo.

Oh...and your mixed-race couples thins was also inaccurate. Anthropologists and Biologists know that the entire concept of race is a myth. Useful only for labeling and sociological purposes. There is no verifiable science behind it. We are all of the same species. And thus, a man of, say, Scandinavian descent breeding with a woman of African ancestry will effect the process of homo sapien physiological evolution not a whit.

Here is a link to explain to you how we ARE still evolving.....

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016/05/humans-are-still-evolving-and-we-can-watch-it-happen

And here is some stuff to educate you on how race is a myth....

http://www.rawstory.com/2014/11/the-myth-of-race-why-are-we-divided-by-race-when-there-is-no-such-thing/

Hope this helps.

SS

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And when that first new significant and useful genetic mutation comes along that proves useful to us...say a more padded ass for all the sitting most people do...

Are you saying that Kim Kardashian is an evolved individual? Please say it isn't so. ;)

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KNHav(1957) Disputed
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Truth or Lies? Tell me, what about evidence like this, explain please

For the prophesy below to have come true, God would have had to have fulfilled three prophesies to match history! -

To LINE UP WITH HISTORIC ACCURACY, There would have to be other prophesies fulfilled on which the prophesy below is dependent on.

THREE PROPHESIES HAD TO BE ACCURATE FOR THIS, NOT JUST ONE!!! All three were fulfilled.

2 OTHER Bible Prophesies -

1 -to scatter them to all the Nations, and 2 - then bring the Jews back from all the Nations He had scattered them, which are also other detailed prophesied! And bringing them back was fullfilled after ww2. .. ... Thousands of years after these prophesies!

Coincidence? Or is this inaccurate?

Was Terrorism a Biblical Prophesy?

Was the Middle East Crisis a Biblical Prophesy?

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Bible Truth or Bible Lie?

It almost seems if it weren't for Israel life wouldn't be quite as disturbed. How is it that 4000 years of these people who really didn't bring much on themselves historically, are the matter that brings TREMBLING (OR TERROR!!!) To the door of EVERY Nation? Has Israel been a burden to lift? When lifting Israel

have those Nations face Trembling, and being cut into pieces?

How did the Bible know Nations would lift Israel? What Nations back then lifted other Nations?

Accurate prophesy?

BIBLE PROPHESY

Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of TREMBLING unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem. And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it… For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of

the people shall not be cut off from the city. Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle

(Zech 12:2-3, Zech 14:2-3 KJV).”

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instig8or(3308) Disputed
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too long, didn't read.

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