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 Period 5 US History Bergen (55)

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Period 5 US History Bergen

For Mr. Bergen's US History class.

Option 1: Make this a time for peace. Japan is defeated. Don't use the bomb.

Option 2: Act responsibly. Demonstate the power of the bomb. If Japan doesn't surrender, they are the immoral ones. We must lead by example.

Option 3: Push ahead to final victory. Fascism must end. Too many American lives have been lost. The bomb will save American lives.

 

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Resources:

http://dbp.idebate.org/en/index.php/Debate:_Bombing_Hiroshima_and_Nagasaki

http://www.endusmilitarism.org/a-bombings-arguments_pro_and_con-wikipedia.html

http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0803-26.htm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4724793.stm

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8 points

Option 2 Pro or Con add arguments here. Claims/Counter/Rebut

7 points

The United States should demonstrate the power of the Atomic Bomb to the world by staging an Explosion on a deserted island in the pacific.

nicolegarcia Disputed
4 points

No, The U.s should show the power by just going to war with only their not overally atomic weapons therfore, not many innocent civilians get killed. Over 60 million people died in WWII and of those 60 million, more were civilian than soldiers.

6 points

Bombing Japan should of never been Americas 1st option. What we could of simply done was demonstrate the power of the Atomic bomb to the Japanese and scare them into surrendering.

nicolegarcia Disputed
3 points

Ha! No! Because Japanese would of just surrender if the U.s would of just let them keep there Emperor! Then there would of been no need of the Atomic Bomb!

2 points

Dropping the bomb on Japan would be a mistake. They are so close to surrender anyway.

Lisette_(8) Disputed
2 points

the united states wouldn't have to scare them into surrendering because they wanted to negotiate into avoiding war already so that would be a waste of a bomb because they just wanted to keep their emperor who was like a god to them

razalasmada(4) Disputed
1 point

so what would our option would of been let american lives die!!!!!

3 points

The United States should Threaten the Japanese with the Atomic Bomb because there would be no point in using it if they were to surrender.

Eva_(7) Disputed
1 point

there's no use of threatening japan with the atomic bomb because all they want is there leader..

2 points

because i think the bomb should showed to japan and russia u.s.s.r so they will but they talking on giveen up on war they were still attacking places like china kill mostly every1 up 2 500,000 and put them on death marches !!!!

angelm_cr7(4) Disputed
2 points

I disagree because using a bomb will cause the dead of civilians

2 points

if we were -to use the bomb it would lead to side effects , birth decets and

etc.

2 points

i would totaly agree its to power and way to dangerous people will it will become a bigger promblem in the futher and same for the people

Eva_(7) Clarified
1 point

give an example on what kind of effects? bleh bleh bleh just so we know!!

Eva_(7) Disputed
1 point

Its a war anyway. of course millions of people will die so why not bomb them!

2 points

we should have graven Japan a demonstration of what type of power we held so they would have Gave up then and there rather then killing millions of innocent people by using the atomic bomb towards the wrong type of people we would have saved many life's of our American troops

nicolegarcia Disputed
0 points

Japan would of just surrender if the U.S would let them keep there Emperor! and would have no need of Atomic Bomb and Their would have been less killed americans troops and japanese!

2 points

if the bomb was demonstrated to the japanese they most likely would have of backed off

2 points

President Truman had hoped for a purely military target, some adviser believed that bombing an urban area might break the fighting will of the Japanese people. Therefore we should threat them first because we are killed more than 70,000 civilians.

1 point

Innocent people should not die when they have nothing to do with the war!

1 point

exhibiting the power of the Atomic bomb to the world will force the soviets to back away from their efforts to expand their influence in Europe. that's why we need to show it.

6 points

Option 1 Pro or Con add arguments here. Claims/Counter/Rebut

7 points

i support option one because the united states had no real reason to bomb japan they went to the soviets and tried to negotiate about keeping their leader and avoiding war they knew they were defeated and starting something they couldn't finish would be stupid and it would be useless to start a war and risk killing innocent civilians

Guillermo_C(5) Disputed
2 points

No I disagree because if we were to let them keep their Emperor you never know if they would lie and just Bomb the United States.

serenaperez(2) Disputed
2 points

i would disagree because what if we backed off wouldn't you think just maybe they would have discovered the power of the atomic bomb them selves and used it against us?

5 points

I support option one because the U.S didn't really have a reason to bomb the Japanese. It isn't a good thing to start war, it is better to end one. Japan wanted to make a deal with the soviets to keep their leader and avoid war, but the soviets turned down the deal to get land. It would be pointless to go to war with the state that just wants their leader and to skip war. We would also be killing many innocent civilians.

Jose_Aragon(2) Disputed
1 point

we created the Manhattan project to get the bomb, to End the war. xD

4 points

I support option 1 its better to end a war then starting one for no reason and killing American lives that don't need to die.

Lisette_(8) Clarified
3 points

just american lives ? inst it the innocent Japanese civilians that get targeted although there's chances of american lives at risk too

2 points

Option 1. During War, the Americans should not use Atomic Bombs. Atomic Bombs kill more and many innocent civilians that had never done anything wrong. If the Americans would of just gave Japan their Emperor their would of been NO necessary of use of Atomic Bombs.

2 points

yeah why waste live and money and milliatry power and money just not not in my oppion

2 points

Sometimes wars are necessary even when innocent lives are lost. How many innocent lives are too many to lose? In WWII the US made war against Japan. To end the war the US dropped the atomic bomb on Japan. This was a bad decision that the US made because 66,000 people died in Hiroshima.

3 points

Option 3 Pro or Con add arguments here. Claims/Counter/Rebut

1 point

There are a lot of people killed in Hiroshima and Nagasaki and there are 90,000-166,000 people got killed total.

esmeralda5(2) Disputed
1 point

As the defend of democracy and freedom we must remain strong and coincident in our convictions

-2 points
Hector_SIR Disputed
2 points

why would you want to do such thing because Japan had its allies that then which could come back and get us.

2 points

I disagree the US should not destroy Japanese without warning because we do not want to be the same as them.

2 points

the atom is deadly can wipe a whole city and turn people into dust or give them 1st degree burn and radiations can go r atmosphere the radiations can stay around up 2 10 or more years

2 points

A deterrent to the USSR. The Soviets invaded Manchuria on August 9, 1945 only 3 days after the Hiroshima bombing and 9 hours before the Nagasaki bombing. The US were aware that the USSR would enter the Pacific War on 9 August because at the Yalta Conference Stalin had promised Roosevelt that he would declare war on Japan no later than 3 months after the end of the war in Europe (Germany surrendered on 7 May, which makes 9 August the latest date in which the Soviets would declare war on Japan). It was therefore no coincidence that Truman unleashed two nukes, one 3 days before and one 9 hours after 9 August. It was an attempt to end the war before the Soviets could occupy significant territory as well as showing the USSR that the US was in possession of nukes.

2 points

I support option 3 because USA can save thousands of lives without using a bomb

1 point

why??? waste lives and money and bombs that can cause 2 billion just to make if they want their empoeir let them keep him end a world war peacefully !!!!!!!

1 point

The bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki brought the war with Japan to a much earlier close than would have happened if they had not been dropped. Millions of lives were thus saved, as the Japanese military was prepared to sacrifice the entire population of Japan to avoid the shame of defeat. Another, almost unknown fact was that the Japanese were on the verge of developing their own nuclear device when the A bombs were dropped on Japan. :D