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 Why is it unfair to require Identification before you vote? (16)

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Why is it unfair to require Identification before you vote?

People say it will disenfranchise voters, mostly minority voters and senior voters. But would it cut down on voter fraud?

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2 points

I think I.D. should be required to vote. I saw an article saying that a state I.D. cost on average $25.00 each. And with 300 million Americans that would cost the Federal Government $7,500,000,000. This is false information. 49% of Americans Voter age have a drivers license, that leaves 153,000,000. Many of these already have a State I.d. Some will not vote, therefore they will not need an I.D. Plus each person could be responsible to pay for their own I.d.

People have to have I.D. for these things already:

If you use a credit card, (many places require I.D.)

buying Alcohol

buying Ammo

buying a gun

renting a vehicle

borrowing money

getting a job

and many other things. So why is it such a big deal. Pass the law, give everyone until 2016 to get their I.D. If I.D. cost $25.00 that means you can save .23 cents per month. skip a soft drink, or something just one day a month.

The only reason you can possibly have for no I.D. is fraud.

J-Roc77(70) Disputed
1 point

All of those things listed are not rights save for the gun bit. Getting an ID to vote is akin to a voting tax and every citizen has the right to vote whether they are poor or not. If the state wishes to provided ID's for those who cannot afford the expense we are wasting our money to stop a non existent problem. In person voter fraud is not a problem.

Here is a source. http://www.brennancenter.org/publication/truth-about-voter-fraud

If the government wants to waste money they need to justify it and there has been no reputable studies confirming in person voter fraud is a problem. I am not a fan of the government imposing mickey mouse regulations where there has not been shown a need.

Anthonyhook(178) Disputed
1 point

(Raleigh, NC)—SEP 4, 2013— Between 2008 and 2012, 475 cases of voter fraud in North Carolina were referred for prosecution, according to a new NC Board of Elections report obtained by the Voter Integrity Project of North Carolina (after repeated requests), which undermines claims that voter fraud in North Carolina is insignificant. (1)

New York City’s watchdog Department of Investigations has just provided the latest evidence of how easy it is to commit voter fraud that is almost undetectable. DOI undercover agents showed up at 63 polling places last fall and pretended to be voters who should have been turned away by election officials; the agents assumed the names of individuals who had died or moved out of town, or who were sitting in jail. In 61 instances, or 97 percent of the time, the testers were allowed to vote. Those who did vote cast only a write-in vote for a “John Test” so as to not affect the outcome of any contest. DOI published its findings two weeks ago in a searing 70-page report accusing the city’s Board of Elections of incompetence, waste, nepotism, and lax procedures. (2)

n Texas, evidence of voter fraud abounds. In recent years, my office has secured more than 50 voter fraud convictions. Those include a woman who voted in place of her dead mother, a political operative who cast ballots for two people, and a city councilmember who registered foreign nationals to vote in an election decided by 19 votes. Voter fraud is hard to detect, so cases like these are just the tip of the iceberg. (3)

Know There are Voter Fraud Convictions and Prosecutions in 46 States?

Check out cases of voter fraud in your state since 2000:

2012 - Alabama

2012 - Alaska

2012 - Arizona

2012 - Arkansas

2012 - California

2005 - Colorado

2012 - Connecticut

2012 - Florida

2012 - Georgia

2012 - Idaho

2011 - Illinois

2012 - Indiana

2011 - Iowa

2004 - Kansas

2012- Kentucky

2002 - Louisiana

2012 - Maine

2012 - Maryland

2012 - Massachusetts

2012 - Michigan

2011 - Minnesota

2011 - Mississippi

2007 - Missouri

2010 - Nebraska

2011 - Nevada

2009 - New Hampshire

2010 - New Jersey

2012 - New Mexico

2011 - New York

2012 - North Carolina

2012 - North Dakota

2012 - Ohio

2010 - Oklahoma

2010 - Oregon

2009 - Pennsylvania

2011 - Rhode Island

2008 - South Carolina

2003 - South Dakota

2010 - Tennessee

2012 - Texas

2008 - Utah

2012 - Virginia

2012 - Washington

2012 - West Virginia

2012 - Wisconsin

2000 - Wyoming (4)

Approximately 24 million—one of every eight—voter registrations in the United States are no longer valid or are significantly inaccurate.

More than 1.8 million deceased individuals are listed as voters.

Approximately 2.75 million people have registrations in more than one state.

Meanwhile, researchers estimate at least 51 million eligible U.S. citizens are unregistered, or more than 24 percent of the eligible population. (5)

How popular is Voter ID?

74 percent of Americans support, according to The Washington Post.

71 percent of Latinos support it, according to the PEW Research Center.

(1){http://voterintegrityproject.com/vote-fraud referrals/?utmsource=Breaking+News!!+New+report+shows+nearly+500+NC+voter+fraud+referrals&utm; campaign=Weekly+Updates&utm;medium=email}

(2) http://www.nationalreview.com/article/368234/voter-fraud-weve-got-proof-its-easy-john-fund

(3) http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/opinion/story/2012-03-19/voter-ID-Texas-fraud/53658158/1

(4) http://www.truethevote.org/news/did-you-know-there-are-voter-fraud-convictions-and-prosecutions-in-46-states

(5) http://www.pewtrusts.org/ourworkreport_detail.aspx?id=85899370677

Anthonyhook(178) Clarified
1 point

When America began, voting was not a right. It was restricted to certain people. The first thing some will say is Blacks could not vote, this is not true at all. That is not completely true. Wentworth Cheswell was a Black man and he held elected office from 1768 to 1817 (except for one year)

Hitler(2364) Banned
1 point

Suck my dick.

SitaraForJesus(3819) Disputed Banned
1 point

You dont have one. .

Hitler(2364) Disputed Banned
1 point

I will admit that you're more likely to have one than me but that's just because you're a fat pig.

1 point

It is not unfair to require identification to vote. Only a statist would say that.