LizziexLaura's Waterfall
Prove me wrong then. Because science favors a creator. Using si.ple logic one can see that.
How so? You talked about child molestation. Thats has nothing to do with this debate.
This is how I feel about God. When christians ask me to prove his non-existence I laugh, because this is in my opinion a silly thing to say. Can you prove to me that Santa wasn't in my chimney last night?
So then it isn't truly silly then because you can't really say he doesn't exist. This just gives christians a hand.
If you believe Santa was in my chimney, then you are in the position to defend and explain why you believe, not the other way around because we are the opposition
Actually it is the work of both people. You have to show proof for your claims that God doesn't exist. Christians have to show proof for their claims also.
It hasn't been proven or disproven. Science actually leans in favor of a creator.
You aren't helping a case. You aren't posting anything relevant.
Also just because things exist doesn't mean they were created
Science can say otherwise.Things dont spawn by themselves.
And also again, just because there's a creator doesn't mean the creator is intelligent, let alone omnipotent, omnipresent, etc.
If you are not bound by space and time and created all of this then I would say that you must be eternal and omnipotent. It is the only way.
Not necessarily. Why could something not exist perpetually and eternally? I see no reason not to believe this is the case, and in fact, if one does not accept the fact that something could exist eternally and perpetually, then one cannot believe in a God (who would, by definition, have to exist eternally and perpetually). Either you accept that things may exist without a creator (the only argument that would, in fact, allow for an omniscient, omnipresent deity), or you require the need for a creator (but then who created the creator?). And clearly we may reject the latter, so we are left with the former argument; and really, if something may exist without a creator, then why invoke a creator at all?
This almost had me but I began to think. God is said to be eternal. Logically this is the only explanation. Science proves that you can't create something out of nothing which implies a creator. The creator must be eternal because if it wasn't it wound be bound by time making it not a God. God is said to be eternal. How do you create something that is eternal?
No, nothing had to have created space and time. What you understand about creating and existing is limited to that which you have experienced within this existence and therefor you (or I) could never understand what it means for something NOT to be made by something else
Let's dissect this one by one.
No, nothing had to have created space and time.
Then space and time can't exist. It can't just be there. Something started the clock. Science even proves that there is a beginning and an end.
What you understand about creating and existing is limited to that which you have experienced within this existence and therefor you (or I) could never understand what it means for something NOT to be made by something else.
Let's take this one step further shall we?
you (or I) could never understand what it means for something NOT to be made by something else
Yet science and simple logic proves that you can't create something out of nothing. This forth even science proves that we can understand a little bit about it.
Because that means God is just a term we use for the accident of existence, and therefore is just replacing the terms we already have in science.
Accident of existence? Something had an accident and caused existence? That implies a creator did this on accident then. What created humans?
To be god you have to be beyond space time and all of the finite reality. the only other things that meet this criteria are the things that don't exist. Therefore god is categorized under non-existence.
Not quite. Something must have created space and time correct? Thus forth this being cannot be limited by time or space. Something created it. Something started time.
Think about it, why would you ever make something for no reason? In fact we have a term for that which we "make for no reason", accidents. We could wish to be as much at best.
How does that disprove God though or the idea or a creator?
Existence hardly implies creation, and even if it did, a creator would not be
How so? Doesn't the sheer fact that something exists imply that something created it?
Not quite. In order to ensure free will the god, or shall we just use God, God must not be seen, you must have faith. If the creator doesn't exist then you have no us so that immediately is tossed out the window. A creator of all things knows all things and does not have to be physical.
Are we naming our extra members? Like pets? My bird's name is flip. My plants dont have names yet or the worms I have in a tank.
Without women men wouldnt exist. I would declare them important. What religion do you follow?
Female president? Maybe. We had a court justice that was female so I dont see why not.
Yes. In high school girls are now allowed to try out for the football team. Disney Channel had a big deal with one girl and they ran her commercial.
Man of the house? Yes. Quite often too. Sometimes the man just wants to sleep all day amd the wife works and pays the bills and the man just cleans up his mess.
Women are used for cooking, cleaning, and sex? Hmmm. Wouldnt it be wrong to say that men are practically good for......I dont know. Sex? Hunting? Thats about it. That would be false wouldnt it?
Considering the fact that women actually do more than that I have no need to dispute you. Simple celebrities can disprove your logic. First we have females serving in the armed forces. We have women in political power. We have women as police. We have female boxers. We have female business owners. We have female scientists. We have actresses. We have female singers. We have female tv show hosts. I can go on and on.
Clean the kitchen? Why cant a women do other things? Why follow that stereotypical housewife role from the 1950's when we live in the age where women do everything men do and men dont really care and actually promote the growth of women in "manly" arts? Arts such as fighting, football, or even being a soldier. Men dont care.
I really hope that this is not a serious comment. Because some peoppe here will take great offense to that.
Actually it is exactly like that. I think that makes sense. Yeah thats what I am talking about.
Lol. Everybody in the series fights somebody. All of them have anger issues.
