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Sure, why not? Not in a million years!
Debate Score:57
Arguments:34
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Would you park in an slot reserved for expectant mothers?

A woman that is that close to delivering shouldn't be out shoping!  I mean, have you ever seen anyone pop in the mall?

Sure, why not?

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Not in a million years!

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2 points

In a heartbeat. They go straight from the welfare office and then park by the front door. Have you noticed who has the most kids, those that can't afford to have them. I pay for their kid, then why should I have to walk farther than them.

Side: Sure, why not?
2 points

Yes, if I had a wife and she was pregnant. :)

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Side: Sure, why not?
2 points

If I were pregnant.

I actually really respect the handicapped parking, and other privilages awarded to the disabled... That said...

One time I was at a park and I saw a car parked in the middle of two handicapped spaces, without a sticker. Had the car been in only one space, and there had still been a spot left i would have let it go. But this just smelled like the work of a jackass. So I yelled out, "who's car is this?!" A guy raised his arm... His only arm.

FML...

Side: Sure, why not?

You're not from N.Y. are you? First thing you learn in N.Y. is mind your own freaking business. Having said that... what you're saying is that a one arm driver can't park a car if his other arm depended on it. Or are you saying that one arm drivers are jackasses? Maybe that guy didn't have any respect for the handicap either ;)

Side: Sure, why not?
Pineapple(1449) Disputed
2 points

I'm saying he should have respect for other disabled persons, and not take up two spots.

And also put his sticker on his mirror.

Side: Sure, why not?
2 points

Exercise In PregnancyBradley Goldberg, MD

It is not always necessary for pregnant women to give up their exercise routines. In fact, studies have demonstrated that mild to moderate amounts of exercise could result in certain benefits such as shorter labors, less preterm deliveries, less cesarean deliveries, and less fetal distress during labor. Proper exercise programs could also increase your daily energy levels, and improve your quality of sleep.

The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG) recommends that women who exercised before pregnancy can continue to exercise with some restrictions. Specifically, ACOG recommends:

Regular exercise (at least three times per week) is better than intermittent programs.

Avoid exercises where you lay flat on your back after the 12th week of pregnancy.

Do not exercise to the point of exhaustion, instead, stop when fatigued.

Make sure you do not overheat. Drink plenty of fluids and maintain a proper diet.

Avoid activities that require precise balance.

Avoid activities that have the potential for abdominal trauma.

Don’t worry, the above list does not exclude all activities. Recommended regimens include walking, swimming, bicycling (stationary bikes are best in late pregnancy), and low impact aerobics. Walking is ideal, especially for women who did not exercise much before they were pregnant.

Sounds good so far, but you must keep in mind that there is the potential for problems. High-impact exercise, with excessive bouncing or jarring should be avoided. In addition, women who exercise too vigorously on a regular basis could have babies with low birth weights. It is also prudent for women who were inactive before pregnancy to limit new exercise programs during pregnancy to mild or moderate programs, such as walking or swimming.

Certain groups of women should not be exercising at all when pregnant. This includes high-risk pregnancies such as women with high blood pressure related to their pregnancy, women with premature labor, and women with twins. As a rule, you should always check with your physician before beginning any exercise program during pregnancy. Grocery shopping is physical exercise

Bibliography

1. The Athletic Woman, Part II: Concerns During Pregnancy, The Female Patient, Vol. 23, July 1998, pp. 34-40.

2. Exercise During Pregnancy, ACOG Pamphlet # AP119, 1998.

3. Williams Obstetrics, 20th Edition, F. Gary Cunningham,M.D. et.al., Appleton & Lange, Stamford, Connecticut, 1997.

4. Exercise During Pregnancy and the Postpartum Period, ACOG Technical Bulletin #189, February 1994.

Side: Sure, why not?

What about sex? Can they keep on doing do it? What if the guy pokes the kid in the head? Is that what the soft spot is for ;)

Side: Sure, why not?
2 points

Are you meaning cervical softening? Doctors hate using laymen terms to indicate the obvious.

Side: Sure, why not?

They can now fine you $250 if you park in a handicap zone even though a parking lot is private property and a cop has no jurisdiction there. But the other types of parking aren't recognized by the law ... yet.

See? Everyone needs some special privilege or benefit sanctioned by the feds. I take the parking spot and tell onlookers that I couldn't find any handicap parking. When they ask what's wrong with me I say, "I have a hang nail." If they stare harder I add, "Oh, I forgot, and an ingrown toe nail... ouch!" ;)

Sometimes I push my belly way out and yell, "Expectant fathers have rights too!" ;)

BTW, handicap parking discriminates against the able bodies!

Basically if you can get a bunch of people to feel sorry for your ass, you can force concessions from the rest of the populace.

We are becoming a nation of pathetic, pitiful, unproductive, worthless, wretched, beggars with the power to legally extract alms from the able bodies!

There are way too many victims on this planet. We should get rid of a few ;)

Side: Sure, why not?
Spoonerism(831) Disputed
2 points

BTW, handicap parking discriminates against the able bodies!

Feeling pettier than usual today?

I'm not sure that parking is a "concession". For me it's, how do you say? Ah yes...not a big deal. At all. I have two perfectly good legs. And there are MORE than enough non-handicapped spots. I usually don't even bother to search for a spot up close, because, again, I have perfectly good legs. I don't mind walking across the lot. It's good for you.

Besides, we're becoming a nation of lazy, fat people. We need the exercise.

I think you overestimate your own able-bodiedness.

Side: Not in a million years!

No, I agree with you. We are becoming a nation of lazy, fat people. We need the exercise. All those fatties with a handicap sticker should have their sticker revoked ;)

Side: Sure, why not?
iamdavidh(4856) Disputed
2 points

Well, like usual you've taken it to a silly extreme, there's no reason an able body can't walk the ten extra paces,

I would say you are onto something, whether on purpose or not,

the classification of who is handicap and who is not is completely out of control.

Fat does not = handicap, neither does old necessarily.

Like, the only people who should be allowed in those spots are people who are really physically incapable of walking, like, they don't have legs or, or gang-green or something.

Side: Not in a million years!

It's not the ten extra paces I have to walk, it's the driving around for 10 minutes looking for a spot at Home Depot when there are 10 handicap spaces available not being used. I mean, why does Home Depot need 10 handicap spaces? How many handicap people are at Home Depot at any one time? What the hell are the handicap that can't walk 10 extra paces going to fix at home with stuff they get at Home Depot? ;)

Side: Sure, why not?
2 points

I don't see a problem with having parking for expectant mothers. I think it's more about the discomfort women feel in their third trimester, than the fear that they are going to pop mid-shopping excursion.

I have two good legs and am able bodied. I have no problem walking a little further so that someone who needs it can park closer.

Side: Not in a million years!

Yeah but sometimes when i drink too much beer I feel bloated. I should also be allowed to park closer ;)

Side: Sure, why not?
Spoonerism(831) Disputed
3 points

Going out on a limb here, but you probably shouldn't be driving when you've drank so much beer that you're bloated.

Side: Not in a million years!

At my supermarket they used to have a few spaces reserved for mothers with children only plus the usual handicapped spaces. I can park in the handicapped spots but would never take up a spot for mothers with or expectant of a child. I can still walk a bit farther than a more handicapped person than myself but I hate it when I see a teenager parking in one of those spots just because they have the right credentials from a parent.

Side: Not in a million years!

And I hate it when that single mom on welfare and 8 kids parks there and looks at me like, "Yeah, pay for my kids, bad choices and walk further, bitch!" ;)

Side: Sure, why not?

People actually need those spots. Will it really kill you to walk the extra couple of yards?

Side: Not in a million years!

Some people use that spot because they made bad choices in life and I end up paying for their bad choices. Like the single mom on welfare and 8 kids who parks there and looks at me like, "Yeah, pay for my kids, my bad choices and walk further, bitch!" ;)

Side: Sure, why not?
1 point

Well, actually, you have to admit that she needs all the help she can get... and maybe what you consider bad choices she considers good choices! /shrug

Side: Not in a million years!
1 point

If I remember correctly, Missouri pioneered the "expectant mother parking" after a pregnant woman slipped in the icy parking lot of a shopping mall during the Christmas season and was injured (I can't recall whether the fetus sustained injury as well). So in those situations, perhaps seasonal preggo parking would be in order. Helps keep the pregnant woman from toppling over in the ice and snow, which helps keep the mall from getting sued, which keeps prices down and everybody goes home happy.

I have no personal experience with being pregnant so I have no real idea whether its physical discomforts warrant expectant mother parking on a year-round basis; but hell, these woman are pregnant, and I don't really begrudge a pregnant woman a parking spot. That would just be sort of petty.

So no, I don't park in expectant mother parking.

Side: Not in a million years!