Joe_Cavalry All Day Every Day

And yet in science it is freely stated that nothing can be proven completely. They used to believe the world was flat. They once said that everything that could be invented had been. Science is no more "proven" than religion.

The only reason I'm even dignifying you with a response despite your adolescent rudeness is because of how sickly you have twisted the facts to try and show your narrow view of history. Thomas Jefferson, like so many living at that time was sick of the quibbling between Christian denominations. He was also very opposed to any attempt to manipulate people and cloud their minds. While he did indeed criticize many Christian denominations and many Christians for doing just that, he was also an active member of the Anglican church, attending each week for a large portion of his life (yes, even while he was writing some of this). Jefferson, like so many, was sickened by the divisiveness within religion, and made several conflicting statements throughout his life as his religious philosophies changed.

“God who gave us life gave us liberty. And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are a gift from God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath? Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, and that His justice cannot sleep forever.” [Notes on the State of Virginia, 1781]

“It [the Bible] is a document in proof that I am a real Christian, that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus." [Jan 9, 1816 Letter to Charles Thomson]

This page is informative http://earlyamericanhistory.net/founding_fathers.htm and breaks down each of the founding fathers and what we DO know about them from an objective opinion, rather than just pulling quotes off of some athiest webpage...

As you can see, while many of them held unorthodox views, almost all of them actively attended church meetings, and when it comes to their views on Christ, most of them we just don't know.

In any case, this discussion isn't about Christianity, it's about the idea that this country was founded on a belief in God, which, as you can see from the above, it undoubtable was.

Maybe I'll take your arguement more seriously next time if you use some respect and clean up your language. Oh, and here's a crash course on rhetoric, when you swear at me and call me stupid, that's called ad hominum, a logical fallacy. I came here to have a polite discussion, so if you disagree with me, tell me why and cite your evidence.

As was stated above, WAY too expensive, and what a waste of money! We're going to remove the word "God" from all our coins because some people are offended by it? When did we get so touchy!

From a deeper position, this country was founded as a Christian nation--I'm sorry, it's true. At the time it was founded, the 1st amendment was created because of situations like the Catholic/Protestant debates going on at the time. We cannot pull history out of context and try and apply it to today. Not establishing a church to them was looking at two(ish) different Christian denominations. I doubt it even occurred to the Founding Fathers there were non-Christian faiths to be taken into account as well. (I read the link posted earlier about how they were not Christians, and I'm sorry, but that's just absurd. Any attempt to say they were not really requires original sources.)

Even so we use the 1st amendment to protect everyone. The statement "separation of church and state" is not in the 1st amendment, which says that no law will be made to establish a religion or prohibit the free exercise thereof. Coins saying "in God we trust" do not violate either of these principles.