I mean, yeah..., a Muslim just killed 50 people for being gay. But don't ever forget that one time a Christian refused to bake a cake for a gay couple. Just saying ;)
Jokes aside, there's something serious to be said here. ISIS wants a war of isolation, where they can portray themselves as the defenders of Islam against the West. By developing an association between Islam as a whole and terrorism, we isolate Muslims within the west and drive more towards radicalism. We would be effectively strengthening their position.
So really, what is more important? The fight, or a few words?
I'm certain they will. Banning Muslim travel to the United States would seriously upset and alienate our Muslim allies like Turkey and Saudi Arabia, and further ISIS' message that the west isn't at war with them, it's at war with Islam as a whole.
Banning Muslim travel to the United States would seriously upset and alienate our Muslim allies like Turkey and Saudi Arabia
TBH though, I get kind of annoyed when I hear Muslims say this. I was listening to NPR this morning and they were interviewing a Muslim spokesperson near Orlando. She said that we shouldn't ban Muslims because they will get mad and cause more problems for the USA (she didn't say it like that but that is the message that came through).
I guess that is true, but doesn't that sound like a threat? And shouldn't Muslims be saying something better than "keep us or you're asking for trouble", especially days after a terrorist attack?
Idk man, it just feels wrong. I talked to my Muslim friend about it and he had no opinion.
4) People taking out loans to pay into programs created by billionaires & the rich (they've figured out that if one person gives them money and goes bankrupt, this doesn't effect them)
5) Housing market price gouging
6) Rising costs of services due to different industries price gouging each other
As you can see, the capitalistic market is screwing itself over indirectly. Then they want to point fingers without taking a cut and making things fair.
At least Obama's debt causes can be explained because he has implemented NEW country wide programs that never existed before that will pay off in the long term.
Like:
1) A health care system (which cuts the salaries of corrupt doctors)
2) He attacked the oil and coal industries in order to protect the environment and invest in alternative sources of energy (he prioritizes long term goals over short term profits, unlike the companies)
True. Just as the more you speak against Christians and Christianity, the madder THEY get. I try not to speak against either .... against remarks and points they might make, for sure, but, I have nothing against anyone believing what they want to believe.
Voicing hatred against ANYONES belief is a GREAT way to "piss them off", don't you think?? Muslims are no different. Except that they are probably more passionate than the CYA Christians, of which there are many, and more likely to take their beliefs seriously ... as would the NON-CYA Christians. So, let the hatred continue, as it has for centuries. It festers and flairs up every now and then, one side against the other. It will never change as long as these "gods" prefer to remain invisible, and continue to be just "beliefs".
The more you molly-coddle them, the weaker you appear in their eyes and the more they will attack you. Take a look at Europe, ground zero for political correctness, and look where it's got them. Case closed.
I think they have problems with Muslims, period. Everywhere you look; from France to the Scandinavians, from Germany to England and everywhere in between, they have problems with them. They don't assimilate and it's only going to get worse. The recent influx of refugees is a powder keg waiting to go off.
I say we nuke them. Should we nuke them? We have all these nukes left over from the cold war. It would be a shame to let them go to waste. Maybe we can spare one or two. What do you think? Nuke 'em. Right?
I'd say it would be better to nuke the political correct left. Like you say, we have some left over nukes from the cold war. What do you say? Nuke the Left?
LOL, this argument just repeated the unbelievable stupidity of the Left. They STILL actually think terrorists care what we say or do.
IDIOTS! MORONS! FOOLS!
Terrorists love the weakness of Democrats. Isis has used it to come to power in just a few years. They came from nothing to controlling the world stage ALL under the weak policies of Democrats.
How is that possible? I thought Obama's apology tour was suppose to send a message to Muslims that we feel for their cause. I thought a kinder gentler adminsitration was going to improve relations with terrorists. Our relations are the worst they have ever been.
Can you people on the Left be any more stupid? Terrorists hate us for merely not being of their religion! IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT WE SAY OR DO!
Should we nuke them? We have all these nukes left over from the cold war. It would be a shame to let them go to waste. Maybe we can spare one or two. Or do you think nuking them won't matter either?
"Nukes" do not discriminate. Wherever you drop a nuke, thousands of innocent women, children, animals, Christians, and whatever else is in the area dies. THAT'S the way "nuking" will matter.
I can't believe (or don't want to), that you actually recommend the process. Nukes are nothing to joke about!
How does any person get radicalized? How did Hitler get radicalized to the pont of murdering all Jews? How did women get radicalized to killing their unborn?
Evil, jealousy, selfishness has always existed in the world and it always will.
People who kill will always have a million reasons why they do so. They will always blame someone or something for their butchery. The human race is made up of many selfish, unforgiving and vengeful people. They love to blame others for their atrocities.
Look how quickly people are ready to riot and steal from people they don't even know, all because they can get away with it because of some so called racial incedent. People want what others have and many times will kill to get it.
Muslims have been at war with themselves, or with others since time began and it has ABOSLUTELY NOTHING to do with current events. With technology today, they have been able to spread their hatred to all nations through the internet.
Have you ever heard one time from these terrorists that they would stop killing people when we left Iraq? There is NOTHING we could ever do to stop them. They believe it is their duty to kill the infedel whereever he lives. They are brainwashed from the time they are children to hate.
It takes strength and war to stop evil and it always will.
How does any person get radicalized? How did Hitler get radicalized to the pont of murdering all Jews? How did women get radicalized to killing their unborn?
So you think if ISIS didn't have social media outreach, wasn't doing anything to try and spread their message, and wasn't making any public attacks, there would still be the same number of Muslim terrorist attacks? You think everyone who joined the Nazi party would have done so regardless of what else was going on in the country in that time?
Obviously, people like Hitler or the leaders of ISIS are not what I'm talking about. But there are thousands and millions of followers of those people, and that number is increasing. How do you think they get people to join their cause?
The quran speaks to kiling their enemies or even people who do not believe. People are following the teachings of the quran.
Just because Liberals try to say Islam is a peaceful religion means nothing. Liberals are liars and the only reasoning I can come up with is that they will support anything at odds with Christianity.
I believe Liberals hate the fact the vast majority of Americans align with Christianity. They want more numbers of other religions so they can call us a nation without one major faith and thereby ignore the Christian vote which is still very important in elections and usually goes against Democrats.
It's all politics.
I have no other clue to why Democrats are such Muslim sympathisers. The Democrat party could care less about the freedom of religious expression as we saw with their fixation of censoring Christian holidays in schools, censoring Christmas and Easter pagients, etc. etc.
The quran speaks to kiling their enemies or even people who do not believe. People are following the teachings of the quran.
SO DOES THE TORAH. The Torah claims that if a person comes to your town and tries to preach a religion other than Judaism, that prophet should be publicly killed. That is one of many, many brutal examples.
So am I being a "Jewish sympathizer" when I point out that a majority of Jews don't do that? Am I a Jewish sympathizer when I don't suggest that we stop all Jews from entering the country? How is that different?
No shit Islam isn't a peaceful religion. But neither is Judaism, or tons of other religions, or Christianity. The doesn't make Muslims, Jews, or Christians, or anyone inherently not peaceful because of what religion they adhere to.
We are through here. As you soon as you do the usual and imply Christianity also supports killing people for their beliefs, then I ignore your mindless deception.
When you do this you totally show why I ban people. It is a total waste of time debating liars!
Can you hypocritical bigots be any more in denial of YOUR HATE AND VIOLENCE?
You sick pious judgemental people support killing viable late term Babies for any reason up to birth(when you vote for Democrats) and you have the nerve to speak about the hate and violence of others?
It does not get any more evil than to support killing our most innocent of life when it can't even defend itself.
...and the abortion robot is back! Good to know that there is really only one issue that you have any real arguments on. You respond to any debate you lose with 'well, your opinion doesn't matter because ABORTION EXISTS.'
Except then you don't do anything to reduce abortions. Comprehensive sex-ed massively reduces the number of unwanted pregnancies, and as such, the number of aboritons. AND YET YOU'RE AGAINST IT. By your own logic, 'it does not get any more evil' than that.
Don't you just hate it when people show your true colors? I will always use the truth and obvious fact of what people like you and the Left support.
You are a liar! I am fine with elective sex ed. classes after schools and not forced on every parent's child. Sex ed. classes should first and foremost STRESS how stupid and irresponsible it is for teens to be having sex. Then they can they speak to birth control.
Abortions were far fewer when there was no sex ed. in school, and any recent slowing of abortions (over one million per year) has more to do with requirements from Republicans that the mother is educated to the unborn baby and the ramifications of abortion.
When abortion was not legal, there were FAR FEWER abortions. Laws work! Laws save lives! People who try to deny this are idiots!
I believe one fundamental misconception you have is that peace is natural... which it is not. Violence and death are natural. Humans have a long history of war. Especially, religious people. War and death is the natural state of human life. Peace is the most unnatural of things. This world we live in, this peace that has been built, are due to unnatural things like computers and mass communication.
There is no justice. They just make it seem that way. There is no good or evil, just chaos.
I have to disagree that peace is always an unatural state for us homo sapiens.
While it is indusputably true that our species has a long and bloody history of warring and violence, we also have just as long a history of peace and altruism. And philantrhopy.
So much so, in fact, that if you look at the 200,000 year history of homo sapiens on this planet, there has been far more perids of peace than of war and killing. I will go so far as to say that war often "punctuates" our periods of peace, but the latter still dominates.
Also, did you know that depsite popular opinion, we are now living in more peacefult times than ever before? There are no fewer total wars and carnage on the planet that there were during many other times?
Yep. It's true. I will conclude this post with a link where you can read more on this and see for yourself. Also, know that most of is Evolutionary Biologists have agreed that during our history, we have discovered that it DOES benefit us to practice philanthropy and altruism. We have found that in the long run helping our fellows will help us. I will give you a link for that too.
Hope this helps. I always like to teach about Evolutionary Psychology, which is my sub-discipline major.
OK. First....that link on how we are living in peaceful times.
The terrorist Muslims want us dead whether we speak out against them or not.
So I say not only should we speak out but lash out as well.
With extreme prejudice.
I tried to enlist after 9/11 so I could go hunt and kill me some Mooslim demons. But the army denied me because I had a past felony conviction.
We support our troops in other ways. Me and my band do a lot of benefit guys for vets. Seems a lot if vetts dig us! One guy told me he played our stuff on his iPod when he was over in the sandbox killing those murderous evil bastards. Says it got him fired up.
Always glad to help. I'm writing a song with that title about it!
We need to eradicate the ISIS like the shit covered hemorrhoids they are.
Not all Muslims are bad. What is happening is that Obama is priming the US for escalating the war on the Middle East. The reality is that the gun laws are responsible for the deaths, however, they are using this event (although there have been many mass school shootings by non-muslims), in order to use hate to unify the country. They did something very similar in Nazi Germany, and tried to do it with Vietnam.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL, are there really people who can hold down a job and have rational thought who actually believe that our gun laws are the problems with mass killings?
THIS IS WHY WE HAVE PEOPLE LIKE OBAMA AND HILLARY RUNNING THE DEMOCRAT PARTY! These kinds of people actually vote for them and believe their rhetoric.
I hold down a good job. I co-manage and co own a successful CrossFit gym. And I am a registered voter and a college grad an I think I'm usually as rational as the next guy, if not more so.
And I claim that had there been legislation in place that denied a person like Mateen from legally purchasing an assault rifle, there would be an excellent chance that Orlando would not have occurred. Therefore, dozens of lives being saved.
I also believe that for the Columbine, the Virginia Tech, and the Batman movie theater shootings. No way in hell that psychos like thise kids should have been able to so easily obtain weapons if that sort.
What aspect of this common sense do you not understand? Are you retarded or just brain-dead from wacking off to those Charlton Heston NRA commercials so much?
You know nothing of my Church except what your butt boy AintNow spewed. So you parrot him like his lapdog.
And the situations in France and here are totally different. France is dealing with Islamist extremists. Our mass shooting like Columbine and VA Tech and Aurora have nothing to do with that. But rather are due to legislation not being in place to prevent wackos like those shooters from getting their mitts on assault weapons in a legal manner.
Orlando didn't have anything to due with jihad either. Rather Mateen was a mentally unstable young man with a hatred of gays. Yes, Islam professes a hatred of them, as does YOUR religion. But Mateen was NOT a practicing Muslim. And he still would have hated gays in his psychotic manner without the existence or Islam.
Yes, this is my mentality. A Christian and a business owner and a man with an IQ probably twice yours who knows that the last thing our country needs right now is the legal ability for mentally unbalanced nuts to purchase automatic weapons. How you cannot agree with me on this is beyond me.
Let me ask you this: which of us do you think Jesus would agree with?
In every country that has strict gun laws, there are near to none school shootings and mass killings. Look at Canada, Britain, Sweden, etc ... near to none school shootings in very populous multicultural countries. See that is the issue with politics, they talk and don't look at statistics from other countries that have already had these policies implemented. Furthermore, when a mass killing occurs, IT ALWAYS INVOLVES A GUN. Most people don't even know how to utilize simple bombs, which I find ironic, because they'd probably be more effective.
I think it is primarily a case of, the more the facts about the shocking barbarity of this backward and demonic religion is revealed the more they commit murder in a cowardly attempt to stop the awful truth becoming widespread knowledge.
Any argument which says you need to keep your mouth shut or else is an affront to freedoms of civil rights. And I'd stick by the right to free speech even if it were at the expense of creating more terrorists. At least that's how I feel about it.
The title of the post is nothing more than a Progressive Leftist talking point ! Problem is Progressive Leftist refuse to see history because that is truth and reality which is very scary to them !
You do realize that I am a conservative and that I do not advocate gun control, right? As far as I'm concerned the more people that die, the better. I hate rush hour traffic. ;)
