Joe_Cavalry All Day Every Day

So, what you're saying is the Hellno is the "heir of the dog" (muttley)? ;)

No. the government has no authority to ban it. They specifically repealed the amendment that gave them the authority.

>>"The incentive is within a mutual contract between members of a group, to provide labor towards products/services that benefit the entirety of the group."

And if someone does not find the "good of the group" as sufficient incentive to produce more than (or even as much as) he can consume, what happens?

Is he coerced into greater labor?

>>"Who decides, how the decisions are made, the factors (which in any system are difficult to account for), are all dependent on the manner in which this system is implemented. "

How are the actual demands of the individuals (and the group) calculated?

What If I decide I need more than others decide that I need, whose decision controls?

>>"Competition is null, and yet everyone gets what they want."

Assuming that not everyone will be honest as to his ability to provide, nor is willing to limit his wants or needs, how can this be true?

Still assuming this dishonesty (human nature), What incentive does the productive worker have to greater labor, if he sees his lazy fellows benefiting as much as he does from his own labor?

There is a difference between incentive and coercion. In a free market the incentive is to profit. There is only the restriction of honoring property rights and contracts. There is no coercion to profit. It is human nature to wish to improve one's lot. A free market (with property rights and contract) insures that you can't improve your lot, at the involuntary expense of another.

You compete to meet the demands of your fellow man, for your own selfish reasons, to the benefit of all.

"Wrong; socialism changes the incentive to produce from a self interest one to a common good."

How is the incentive changed?

"Communism is a system collaborated by laborers to produce and provide that which is beneficial for the group. This is to say the more productive would be the most valuable of people."

Who decides?

How is the decision made?

What factors are taken into account?

What is the practical effect (to the person) of being one of the "most valuable of people"?

The intent of a policy is irrelevant. The effect of socialism (collectivism) is to reduce the incentive to produce. The effect is less aggregate wealth, and a society where the more productive are more worse off than the least productive are improved.