Yes but the stimulus bill worked wonders for the economy.

I read quite a bit, relative to many of the people that I am associated with, I am not an atheist.

You know I still think that, I wish Jesus was here in the flesh, and you would be correct, "Magic" was possible at that time.

Ive always found it entertaining when people use the apocrypha as proof of the Bible's falsehood when the apocrypha is not a part of the bible

Although that is a legitimate question would it not be better to choose one and hope you are correct? That seems like a better option than none.

Well actually I would say that intelligence, especially in today's world, ( or percieved intelligence) Tends to push people towards atheism, they believe they are too "Smart" For God.

I also have a brain, I however am not atheist.

Thank you someone on the opposing side, supports me. :)

I still don't understand how to get by 50 characters.

Walk By faith not by sight, the fact that you can even say that people live morally attests to the existence of immorality, erego sin. Furthermore not drinking, smoking, murder etc. Is not the Christian definition of morality, we seek perfection.

P.S. All men are guilty of adultery, as Jesus said " When you look upon a woman with lust you have already committed adultery in your heart."

God does not "HATE" any people, he hates actions, the sin within people's hearts, there is a huge difference.

I would say that those without faith are blinded, that is why debates like this get nowhere, nonbelievers refuse to believe and believers refuse to disbelieve.

We should have just had them live in the USA, basically the same thing, they just remain a part of our country.

Honestly you're right except for one thing, any degree of intelligence that any person has been given is sufficient to believe in God because otherwise God would be depriving them of something they require to believe.

Yah no problem feel free to correct me whenever, we all fall short.

I have used logic many times, it doesn't seem to change how I have read the bible.

Explain to me something that is ridiculous in the bible. I want to know.

I refuse to agree with anything you ever say even if you're right.

That is really not relevant because you have read the bible and are not atheist does not mean that others won't read it and become atheist. And every time you sin you turn away from God it's as simple as that.

A lot of Jefferson's statements seem to be reflecting on the nature of the political controls that the catholic church instituted along with James Madison, yes they were deists so Christian principles are interwoven into their ideas, sure they appear to vehemently hate the clergy and the institutions that they supported. John Adams also remarks on the creeds oaths etc. These are truly fabricated by the Catholic Church, but that does not mean they are all bad. The majority of these quotes would be correct in the context however if we were to think about Christianity as actually only having a very small following. Those who " Pick up their Cross daily" then this is hardly true. However I do agree that the clergy and the institutions were extremely corrupt but that is not really a reflection on Christianity it is more likely a reflection on human nature.

I've recently realized that including terms like douchebag probably doesn't help "Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for building up, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear" Ephesians 4:29. Well not realized rather chose to stop ignoring how bout that.

In the words of C.S. Lewis " A young Atheist can never be too careful of what he reads." The opposite very well may happen as it has with a number of people in my Church.

Instead of thinking literally think more in terms of thoughts and behavior. Sure you ought not actually say the lord's name in vain but the real purpose is to teach people to treat God with the awe he is due through their behavior and thoughts towards him. He is not a trivial casual being. I learned that from a guy named Max Lucado who learned it from a Jewish Rabbi. Seems to make sense.

Precisely the government exists to protect freedom and provide law and order nothing else.

I say abolish welfare screw that collosal waste of money.