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Darkness rise

Howl of the wolf

The dank surprise

Her hand drifts through

Midnight waters, sing,

Imperfect, torn shapes

Of slime ridden debris

From the living, the beautiful

The imperfect, the mortal

Rend her fair skin

And maybe in this laughing lake

There are tears

Darkness rise

Song of the light

Her shining eyes

Like Shallot, cry,

She lets her boat drift on

And stares with that

Beautiful empty stare

At the moon and her daughters

Her eyes flicked shut

Over quick blue diamonds

And she danced with the stars

In her isolated mind

Darkness rise

Keen of the weak

Those everlasting cries

Her dark, curled hair

Brings out miniscule lines

Of red order, crossing her face

Her wealthy, pristine pallor

To match her lotus dress

Which fell around her thin body

In a chaotic, yet alluring way

Yet in her mind

She danced in black

Darkness rise

Silence of the wise

Millennia dead ring the wooden sides, bay,

Of her floating stronghold

Gracelessly, she descends

Perfect armies lay waste to silk

Of her torn dress

And the mirror rises to allow

Besieged yet beautiful, silent yet screaming

The rushed imprints slurred in the sand

Trace her infernal race

To rest in his arms

Elvira(3441) Clarified
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... that will not work.

Even if it did work... have you ever tried catching a fly?

Why not just use the easy, safe way that I always use?

Elvira(3441) Clarified
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Idiot. Spiders are fragile things, I might damage them. It's difficult to catch a spider with your hand. It's difficult to keep a spider in your hand.

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You kill spiders? I always take them outside using a jar and business card.

Elvira(3441) Clarified
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Could be acting.

Elvira(3441) Clarified
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If a bullet goes through their head, they won't.

Elvira(3441) Clarified
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How do you see that in the dark, or when you are too busy fighting the second attacker?

Elvira(3441) Clarified
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Guns are surprisingly useless at times. I'd prefer a shield, hunting knife and arming spear- sharp ones would be nice. You only have six shots with a gun, and it is more difficult to tell if you've actually got a hit.

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Like I have the right to walk down a Birmingham back-alley notorious for crime wearing a miniskirt and a crop top, while whistling loudly.

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More like not-stupid.

Elvira(3441) Clarified
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I put non-money things like risk of being beaten up by angry Muslims in the equation.

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If it burns, it burns. A cost-benefit analysis is the best way to answer this situation. Cost- 1 Qur'an, angry Muslims that might want to harm you. Benefit- warm hands, pretty fire.

Firewood is cheaper.

Elvira(3441) Clarified
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Hellod's weird and illegal cookbook.

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Right back art you, you half baked neon tetra with grapefruit.

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It's too American.

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If you had to choose between giving up meat, eggs, milk &c;and giving up the things vegans can eat, which would you choose?

Elvira(3441) Clarified
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No, not really.

Elvira(3441) Clarified
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To be also be sexist, women are traditionally better at handling money than men.

http://business.financialpost.com/2013/03/11/are-women-naturally-better-with-money-than-men/

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To state the obvious: that's sexist.

Mwaha, I got here before Dana.

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That sounds expensive.

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Plants like it. We could bubble the CO2 through a serum containing chlorophyll, to split it into oxygen for use in hospitals et.c and glucose which is always useful.

Could this work?

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Don't we go against natural order in most things?

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Pampered? Some are, some aren't.

Cissies? Some are, some aren't.

Sense of Entitlement? Probably, in MEDC's, most people have anyway?

Young? Some are, some aren't.

Elvira(3441) Clarified
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Nobody is forced to drive legally, and everyone is supposed to have a qualification in driving so they are safe. Bad comparison.

Elvira(3441) Clarified
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Second, Third et.c births are supposed to be a hell of a lot easier than the first, and take much less time, 3hours compared to 8-12 hours for the first. Also, women in poor countries are more likely oppressed- believing themselves inferior to men and that having children is their job, have no access to education and are uneducated. Births differ from woman to woman, but my family has a history of difficult births. Also, there is a high death/injury rate from childbirth in LEDC's (As I have said before, an average of 800 women die a day from childbirth) http://www.fistulafoundation.org/whatisfistula/faqs.html Fistula, as described in the link is one of the complications in LEDC's.

Elvira(3441) Clarified
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Then what is torture? I know people who have torn themselves in childbirth and my cousin in law's mother died in childbirth. My mother nearly died, as well.

Elvira(3441) Clarified
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My mother has though. Something the size of a melon pushed through your vagina is gonna hurt, a lot.

Elvira(3441) Clarified
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You go through the most amount of pain a human has ever experienced without passing out for a long amount of time, so I'd say it's torture, and potentially fatal. (One of the options was the female role in keeping the child, the other was the absentee father paying child support)

Elvira(3441) Clarified
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Pounds are worth almost twice as much as dollars, I think.

Tortured: giving birth.

For until the kid leaves home, 17-30 years.

I calculated for £40 000 ($70k?) a year.

Pay the mother.

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Out of these two options, which do you pick?

A) Paying about £5 a week for a high paying job for 18 years

B) Be tortured for half a day, pay many times that amount...

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going to become president of the US or something and save the world from a nuclear explosion (opinion).

Or it could be a psychotic serial killer, the next fascist dictator...

then? I mean, letting a woman have abortion is like letting her play god of some other person's life who was never born. What I mean is that you don't know if the person you are aborting will deserve life

Your actions have infinite consequences on you and other people, what of it?

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If someone is so stupid as to not use contraception when they don't want a child, they are idiots... but must be tortured, possibly to death for it?

Elvira(3441) Clarified
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Maybe the people who die will be the poor who can't afford to move or don't have access to media. And there's the animals who are completely blameless in this scenario, who will lose habitat etcetera. It's not all about rising sea levels due to heat expansion of water and land ice melting (the stuff about icebergs is complete nonsense, that's just a symptom- icebergs melting won't cause the sea levels to rise), there's also the problem of glaciers disappearing which means some communities will have to relocate or die out because there is no water(Nepal). Drought won't be too nice, either, in Africa conflicts are already beginning over water supplies (people have been killed).

http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/water-wars-climate-change-may-spark-conflict-467957.html

Elvira(3441) Clarified
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Maybe some of the more expensive renewable technologies can be advanced from a different angle- but other environmental policies ~'clean' coal, less pesticides/fertilisers are important.

Elvira(3441) Clarified
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I'm no economist...

Elvira(3441) Clarified
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And yet you hear about the businesses with their rich managers, while the government is slowly dying. Personal wealth could be an issue, possibly. In the UK we have a problem as well~ yet the government is happily spending away like there's no tomorrow on things we don't need. My school, for example. Top of the range computers- hundreds of them, a new technology block- there was nothing wrong with the old one, an Astroturf in the place of our grass field, an amphitheatre that isn't used... as an example of government spending gone mad. In America, you invest too much in the military.

Maybe a diversion of spending is in order?

Elvira(3441) Clarified
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Large companies are running a hell of a profit nowadays anyway. But it would be too much to hope that they would take a cut from the profit~ they'd probably cut worker's pay or something like that.

Elvira(3441) Clarified
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How could 'adopting global warming policies' cause an economic downturn anyway?

Elvira(3441) Clarified
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People want things like big cars, long haul holidays. Companies want to make profits at the expense of others, so they might not invest in technologies that make no difference to their profits but reduce their environmental impact~ greed for money, basically.

Elvira(3441) Clarified
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That will only happen due to bad communication and greed.

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Which are?

(Healthier way of life in general- less pollution from transport, less photochemical smog, less bronchitis, less acid rain, more advancement in renewable fuel technologies...)

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They should be allowed to, but not be forced to.

Elvira(3441) Clarified
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They're not happy when they're starving to death or ill and unable to afford medical attention, unable to afford education... etcetera.

Elvira(3441) Clarified
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The reference to the race would be about elites in their field who were deadly serious about competing. The poor just want to be able to get by happily with their family.

Elvira(3441) Clarified
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That's a rather odd ideology. In the books it's quite funny. Egwene, his childhood sweetheart talks to her best friend Elayne, saying she doesn't want to marry him anymore, Elayne say she loves him and they engineer a 'transfer' of him. Elayne and Rand continue to have a normal relationship after that. Elayne is close friends with Aviendha at this point, and they later have an Aiel ceremony to become adopted sisters. Min really likes him, and confides in Elayne and Eqwene. Rand walks in on Aviendha taking a bath, she freaks out and makes a portal (being an Aiel wise one who wields the one power) to Tremalking and he follows her and finds her nearly freezing to death. They end up sleeping together. Later, when all four are in Andor, he confesses that he loves them all, and he thinks badly of himself for it. They sort it out and have him bonded as all of their warders. He later sleeps with Elayne who becomes pregnant with twins.

Elvira(3441) Clarified
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They aren't running the race...

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This isn't a child's sportsday race. I think the competitors would be insulted if someone was 'considering their feelings' in such a manner. I certainly would be.

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The book didn't talk about that, lol. One was a tomboy who could see into the future (Min/Elmindreda), one was an Aiel Warrior woman turned wise one (Aviendha), and the other was an Aes Sedai Queen of Andor (Elayne).

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/cb20091212045760/wot/images/4/40/Min.jpg

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/cb20091211213306/wot/images/2/25/Aviendha.jpg

http://images.wikia.com/wot/images/8/88/ Elayne_2.jpg


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