Out of interest as you didn't answer my message is that why you created a debate asking what religion people are and declared people who aren't Christian enemies, or did I do something else to offend you?

He actually provoked the Jews more than the Romans, the Romans only crucified him to keep the Jews who were petitioning against him quiet, the Romans did not perceive Jesus to be a threat, they thought of him the same way a lot of people now think of the mad guy on the corner who claims to be the son of God

Proper Terrorists that have been proven to be guilty fine take em out, the problem is a government can label anyone a terrorist which would be where the problem arises, the only other problem is that by killing territorists you could be creating martyrs for their cause.

So you dont think the adoptive kids of Homosexuals should be entitled to the same inheritance rights as the children of Heterosexual couples

Who are you?

The minimum length for an argument is 50 characters. The purpose of this restriction is to cut down on the amount of dumb jokes, so we can keep the quality of debate and discourse as high as possible.

I like that joke and I'm Epileptic, went back but it wasn't a conscious decision on my part more a court order on hers.

I'm probably more of an Optimist because I always look for the Silver lining in a situation but I always expect the worst to happen because that way I wont be dissapointed when everything goes Tits up but if it works out it'll be a nice surprise

I'm probably more of an Optimist because I always look for the Silver lining in a situation but I always expect the worst to happen because that way I wont be dissapointed when everything goes Tits up but if it works out it'll be a nice surprise

Tit for Tat is when a Girl shows you her Boobs and you give her a rubishy ornament in return

I did read that she had been fired but I think that was just damage limitation because of the backlash. I dont think either of them deserved firing for it because it was just a silly joke which has been blown out of proportion.

It's destroying the World it has gone too far, I had some friends at an old workplace three whites and an Asian they were joking about the fact that the Asian guy couldn't pronounce his W's, a Russian girl listened in and reported the White guys for racism, they got in a lot of trouble suspended for a week with no pay and put on report on their return, the Asian guy even stuck up for them and explained it was a private conversation and a joke but to no avail.

I think the idea of Political Correctness is a good one but it has gone too far and common sense needs to be applied

Its sad that you cant joke with your friends for fear of someone eavesdropping and getting you fired for it and getting offended by a Dongle joke jeez sad, sad Woman

If God exists and created everything then he created Atheists which is kind of ironic, if he doesn't then he didn't and it's all irrelevant

I agree many Gays do and Hitler could have been Bisexual but as we dont have any proof to the contrary we just have to go with what we have been told

His attitude to Homosexuals (although it could be argued he was overcompensating to hide his own sexual proclivities) and that he had a mistress would point to him being heterosexual and there is no proof that he wasn't.

My daughter says similar things then puts One Fucking Direction on and their ripping off The Clash, Blondie and The Undertones!! It'll be interesting to see where the bands of today are in a few years things like Floyd have stood the test of time and are still popular today, Roger Waters still sells out gigs and the age range of the audience is immence from people old enough to have been into them from the beginning to youngsters who are just getting into them.

It's all her fault after all we're just men we see a nice rack and thats it all concentration goes out the window, why do you think the Amazons were so awesome it wasn't for their fighting prowess it was because it was a bunch of butt naked women how are you meant to concentrate on war when thats in front of you? Women know they have this power over us and have used it throughout history Adam only took a bite out of that Apple because Eve said he could touch her boob if he did, they always miss that bit out of the Bible

Its sexist, objectifies women and oh fuck it its boobs who cares

That ones always made me laugh theres quite a big clue whats in the packet in the name, i'd be properly disapointed if I opened my Nuts to find an empty packet!!

I've advocated the taking the stupid obvious signs for years I worked somewhere where the fire door was this big double door with fire door written in massive letters on it, there was also a sign hanging from the ceiling pointing to it fair enough in case of a fire it needs to be obvious and the sign pointing it out means we can see where it is from a distance. Then they put up two more signs one pointing out where the sign pointing to the fire door was and one pointing to the sign that pointed to the sign that pointed to the fire door, to me if you need that many signs to find other signs to point you to a door you really don't deserve saving.

If he was thats trolling on an epic scale, Jesus the ultimate Troll. Can you imagine getting to the other side meeting God and him saying yeah Jesus was joking and i've grounded him it would explain why he hasn't come back

I dont think me telling people to be respectful and tolerant is gonna change much, Jesus basically said that hundreds of years ago and look at all the trouble that caused so I think we're safe

I wouldn't get angry Joes like the sites pet troll, he makes some good debates but nearly always puts a title to them that he knows will get a reaction, he's alright though and unfortunately there are some Theists who do believe that Atheism is the dark side. When this debate first popped up I thought it had been created by one of the sites less tolerant Theists then I saw the creator (of the debate not God), so in a way its a clever title it got people debating as it plays to some Theists irrational fear of Atheism but will also rile up some of the Atheists to respond.

You might not think or say Theists are stupid but there are some Atheists who do believe it and are quite vocal about it.

This is true and I agree with you, the reason this debate started though was because there were some Atheists on the site who were being very intolerant of other peoples beliefs, insulting people who had previously been debating politely stuff like that, if you browse some of the debates on religion you will see what I mean (I wouldn't blame you if you didn't though there's a hell of a of a lot of them). There are also some religious people who do the same, when I first joined the site the religious where the bolshier but it went the other way for a while.

I believe people should be entitled to believe or not believe whatever they want and shouldn't be insulted for it but unfortunately there are a few from both sides (religious and atheist) who won't respect or listen to another persons point of view, its sad but can make for a fun debate!!

That's when you tell her the third note concerns her hot friend, anal or whatever other sexual thing you've been asking her to do that she's been saying no to, double bubble you watch the game and get laid like a boss

You might not believe in God but you seem to have a firm belief in double standards, complain about people making generalisations about Atheists then make sweeping generalisations about Theists.

The only thing I agree with is some Theists have a bad attitude same as some Atheists although recently Atheists have been more obnoxious and are quicker to be abusive.

Interesting you have asumed I am a Theist and your telling me that my beliefs make me an Agnostic, sorry my beliefs are mine to believe and mine to choose. I did not make the generalisation that was the Atheist guy I was disputing who used the term we have it all, thats why I used the speach marks as I am on my phone and couldn't highlight anything seems he didn't get the memo about not speaking for others and all belief systems are individualistic not just Atheism

Maybe its because of your attitude people cant tolerate you, "we have it all" what utter bollocks you cant prove or disprove the existence of God which makes your attitude as bad the religous nutter who says he knows for definate God is real and anyone who doesnt believe him will burn in hell

No problem, it doesn't help when you hear the word being used the wrong way it'll lead to false misinterpretations. I always try and keep an open mind about peoples views although that can be hard when you read some of the rubbish posted on here that people insist is the truth!!

Thats exactly it, what I also find interesting is that its usually the ones that act like Dicks complain no-one listens to them. A lot more people will listen to a reasonable argument.

Debating/arguing isn't the problem it's intolerance thats the problem, many Theists enjoy a good debate but why should they have to put up with being insulted for their beliefs

There are some people who do debate on here properly as you say pointing out flaws etc, unfortunately there are some that are intolerant of others and they normally start with insults and being abusive instead of debating properly

I agree there are some on both sides that show no tolerance for anothers beliefs, just recently though I have found Atheists to be more abusive about it. One thing I have noticed about both sides is that the most vociferous are also the most arrogant as if they know everything there is to know about life the universe and everything

That can be argued for either side just because someone does not agree with you doesnt meen they dont have common sense

Your analogy is wrong both Atheists and Religous types think they are right but it is impossible to prove either is right or wrong apart from the odd point here and there.

So if Samsung copied Apple, Apple copied Blackberry and Sony who probably copied someone else because Sony dont have original ideas they normally take someone elses idea and make it smaller and better its what they've been doing for years

If Apple are so great they'd be manufacturing their own products instead they have to get people like Samsung to make their screens etc for them.

You say that Samsung copied Apple but the majority of Apple products are copied from someone elses product, sometimes improving on it sometimes not, then having a hissy fit because you think someone copied the thing you copied in the first place.

The really stupid thing is Hitler believed the Aryans to be blonde haired and blue eyed, the Aryan race started in Persia, not many natural blondes with blue eyes in that part of the world

I'm pretty sure they used two matching lab coats and used a controlled environment but I may be wrong it was a long time ago I saw it, in the end though it was a very minimal difference and wether we walk or run in the Rain we're gonna get wet

I think it was on Mythbusters or something like that on the telly and they tested both running and walking and discovered that walking in the rain kept you marginally dryer

If he was anything Christian is probably closest because of he was Catholic but he was also interested in the Occult and borrowed symbolism from other cultures and religions so who knows

Its not racist Morgan Freeman likes Fried Chicken its one of his favourite foods along with Collard Greens

The majority of people are definately more pro Israel even though they are in the wrong, Gaza is blockaded splitting up families, Fishermen cant get to the Sea and people cant get things exported so as well as getting bombed the Palestinians are being starved and their portrayed as the bad guys!!!

Some people have no respect for tradition, they'll probably wanna marry each other next

Ok i'll be sure to tell my Muslim friend who's doing Philosophy and Politics Degree and his family the Doctor and Dentist i'm sure they'll think as highly of you as I do

Yeah Bond is the man, even his more dubious incarnations were cool.

This company is racist whatever happened to equal opportunies I might need to hire a Cracker or Wetback and they cant supply them because they only hire out Niggaz, I find this deeply offensive

Thats a good theory now but Children have had a fear of Clowns before they were used in Movies and a lot of Kids have a fear of Clowns without having seen any movies featuring evil Clowns I did a quick bit of research into the history of Clowns and found the following from about.com which could explain things a little:

"Clowns date back to the jester or fool of ancient times. In those days, the clown was given permission, and even expected, to represent the deviant side of human nature, from openly defying the sexual norms of the day to mocking the gods. As time went on, the jester morphed into the trickster, a more sinister figure with intentions that were less than honorable.

The modern circus clown is an outgrowth of the tramp clowns of the Depression era. Tramp clowns were largely members of the "unsavory" underclass who entertained the more privileged with a caricaturized look at their daily existence. Although most tramp clowns were harmless, a seedy underbelly did exist among the clown circuit.

Weary Willie was the clown alter-ego of the legendary Emmett Kelly. While Kelly achieved stardom with his character, his personal life was a mess. His wife eventually filed for divorce, claiming that the character had taken over her husband's personality. Their son, Emmett Kelly, Jr., took over the role on his father's retirement. Kelly, Jr. took the character to even greater heights, but his wife, too, felt that Weary Willie eventually overtook Kelly, Jr.'s personality.

In the 1970s, two events occurred that may have fueled our collective fear of clowns. Paul Kelly, the son of Emmett Kelly, Jr., lost a leg in a train accident. Nevertheless, he eventually came to the conclusion that he needed to become the next incarnation of Willie. He began calling himself Emmett Kelly III and performing as Weary Willie. Simultaneously, he slid into a life of drugs and sexual freedom. In 1978, Kelly III was arrested for the murders of two of his homosexual partners. He admitted to the slayings, but listed "Willie" as an accomplice.

Eventually, Kelly III was diagnosed with multiple personality disorder. Willie had apparently taken over his personality as he had those of Kelly's father and grandfather. Although this sort of case appears to be isolated, and most clowns do not show deviant behavior, the case was reminiscent of the malevolent trickster archetype of earlier lore.

The highly publicized murders committed by John Wayne Gacy also took place in the 1970s. From 1975 to 1978, Gacy sodomized and killed at least 33 boys and young men in the Chicago area. Although Gacy never worked as a professional clown, he did perform on a volunteer basis. This connection has been played up over the years in movies and films about the crimes.

By the 1980s, clown phobia had reached a peak. Rumors of ritual abuse of children were rampant, and clowns figured heavily into many of the stories. Spontaneous reports of clown harassment began pouring in from children nationwide. Even urban legends began to focus on killer clowns lying in wait for hapless babysitters."